the rum soaked fist: internal martial arts forum

Trick wrote:Yes Pi-quan has all Xingyi in it. But to understand that I guess one has to have practiced all the other shapes of Xingyi

cloudz wrote:I'm struggling to think of a bigger waste of time to be honest.

johnwang wrote:Assume you just train one technique for the next 2 years such as "a kick to the knee followed by a punch to the face". If you repeat this combo 2,000 times daily with your partner (about 2 hours), in 2 years you have repeated this 2 x 365 x 2000 = 1,460,000 times.

After you have drilled this move almost 1.5 million times, when you use it against your opponent, your successful rate should be high. IMO, it's worthwhile to spend 2 years of your life time to develop some dependable MA skill so you can use it for the rest of your life.

What's your opinion on this?

Bao wrote:

Trick wrote:Yes Pi-quan has all Xingyi in it. But to understand that I guess one has to have practiced all the other shapes of Xingyi

Don’t know about that really. I understand all of the fick fists, but personally I’ve always been struggling to be able to express a good Jing with Pi. The one I’ve found most easy is Pao. But I still like Taiji Jin better than XY. The XY body method is too strict for my own taste, Taiji mechanics are more intuitive.

Overlord wrote:

Yeung wrote:

Overlord wrote:

Unlike Shang Yunxiang whose Beng is straight line. Guo is 之 shape
Then we have 半步崩拳打天下～

Interesting observation, and have you got a reference to it?

I am no scholar. This knowledge is passed orally by my teacher.
You don’t have to take it seriously. No reference.
For a pragmatic purpose, it’s better to work on our Beng, and test it.
Personally prefer Chicken Beng.

johnwang wrote:That single technique that you have developed in 2 years will be the trunk of a MA tree that you try to grow. For any technique that you have developed, you may find many different ways to

- set it up (tree root),
- finish (tree leafs).
- set up your next technique (tree branches).

Your tree will start to grow. Why take 2 years? Because you want to have a strong tree trunk. You may grow many trees through your life time.

CHAPTER 10 Functioning
Everything takes its own particular form before it can function. The function of a thing is intangible, but the effect
produced is there. Function arises out of form; therefore, the intangible function is the servant of the form, which
is concrete.

A wheel one foot in diameter can cover thousands of miles; this is form in function [i.e. the
functioning of form]. Those who are skillful in making use of function do not find the effect in form (but in the
function itself). . The Way is great and extensive, and cannot be traced. It is like tasting honey which does not
have the qualities of the hundred flowers, but has the taste of the hundred flowers.

The difference is that it has undergone the process of change and assimilation.

Although it is from a form (the flowers), it does not take the resemblance of the form that produces it.

This is called taking in the raw basic material and spewing out the
refined.

http://www.baihepai.com/pak-hok-pai-lio ... -siu-jong/

Jarek wrote:"Everything" else comes out of the trunk, because the trunk has the DNA of all the material you have studied.