tongbei people - weighted arm swings?

[vagabond]

curious if any of you do your arm swings holding weights, or teacups or pi chuan or anything really, and have any insights, tips or cautions

this guy seems to be a good plug for gear incidentally

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TAI-CHI-8-ATOMIC-STONE-BALL-14-75-Turquoise/322543719546?hash=item4b191a947a:g:UR8AAOSwIhxZaV2e

[MaartenSFS]

Yes. Just start doing it. Then do it without. The results will speak for themselves.

I wouldn't use those balls. Use dumbbells. They won't fly out of your hands and kill people.

[everything]

KB swings. Such a great weighted swing exercise.

[MaartenSFS]

Except KBs aren't an MA-specific training exercise, so it lacks efficiency.

[everything]

Def a general exercise not specific yeah

[Trick]

Don’t do any Tongbeiquan arm swinging holding weights - you will not be able to swing properly and you’ll hurt yourself

[wiesiek]

I`m not from tongbei ,
but
`- KB swings are great, and the one of the best exercise for increasing power ,
and
will definitely add meat to your art, name doesn`t matter

[windwalker]

Don’t do any Tongbeiquan arm swinging holding weights - you will not be able to swing properly and you’ll hurt yourself

We used to use what are called wood locks.in practicing long arm move movement.


Https://youtu.be/rUoJ9RkaQnw

Not familiar with this teacher the exercises and drills used are very similar to what we did.


https://youtu.be/f7KF7mrBqzw

[CarstenM]

I would agree that KB swings are a great tool to build general functional strength. But I also think that they are not enough to build the specific strength that Tongbei is known for.
Weighted Tongbei armswings are an amazing exercise for very advanced Tongbei practitioners, beginners should NOT try them, the extra weight could cause serious damage if your shoulders aren't prepared by several years of normal armswings!!!

[MaartenSFS]

Yes, that type of training should only be done after your arms, shoulders and back are loosened up and you are very familiar with the techniques.

[everything]

you guys would probably love these. the weight is your own body. I couldn't do it. super fun to try

[RobP3]

Except KBs aren't an MA-specific training exercise, so it lacks efficiency.

Erm, actually KBs originally are excatly an MA-specific exercise. Now, the trendy modern-gym version may have changed, but KBs I've seen are from Russian MA. Many moves map directly onto application, in the same way the sledgehammer does too

[Trick]

Original Kettlebell - an cannonball with an handle weilded on to ? Thats the M(A) connection, maybe?……Talking balls and swing, a bowlinghall might be an tool for ones gongfu - should develop super strong eagle-claw ripping grip

[vagabond]

actuall, i've got a bowling ball spoken for in a friends basement, waiting for me to come pick it up, i'm looking forward to it

[MaartenSFS]

That's not a bad idea. Make sure that the ball isn't too heavy. I highly recommend training Daofa to supplement your unarmed Tongbiquan and vice versa. My hands were already heavy beforehand. Now they're just demonic.