oragami_itto wrote:I don't know, what do you think?
Steve James wrote:Hmm, if the video showed his feet, then there might be a basis for discussion.
Otoh, it's obvious and necessary that the guy's "body weight" is transferred from (in this case) mostly his front foot to mostly his rear foot. In the CMC description, he'd be "double weighted" when his body weight is equally distributed between both feet. In fact, it's not possible to avoid that definition of double-weighting when one shifts weight from one foot to the other.
charles wrote:oragami_itto wrote:I don't know, what do you think?
Not so fast. Over the course of 7 pages, you've stated what double-weighted means. Here's a chance to apply that understanding to a simple posture/move that everyone knows and is found in every Taiji form in one variation or another. I'm asking you to think about it and apply your understanding to that common posture/move.
oragami_itto wrote:Over the course of 7 pages I've already addressed the paradox inherent in the initial description of double weighting as the weight evenly divided between the feet.
If you want to know what use I think the theory is, that's also spelled out in detail.
Despite appearances, I do sometimes reach a limit for the number of times I'll repeat myself.
windwalker wrote:This is what happens when one is double weighted.
It also accordes with how I and some others use this term to explain whats happening.
windwalker wrote:This is what happens when one is double weighted.
It also accordes with how I and some others use this term to explain whats happening.
johnwang wrote:This is why I don't like the PH game. If you push me, I can borrow your force, jump back, run back to my car, get my hand gun, and come back to shoot you.
What additional information would being able to see his feet provide relevant to being "double-weighted" or not? If you prefer, choose a video of the move that shows the practitioner's feet and discuss that one.
偏沈則隨。雙重則滯。
If you drop one side, you can move. If you have equal pressure on both sides, you will be stuck.
(註)何謂偏沈則隨。雙重則滯。譬如兩處與彼相粘。其力平均。彼此之力相遇。則相抵抗。是謂雙重。雙重則二人相持不下。仍是力大者勝焉。兩處之力平均。若鬆一處。是為偏沈。我若能偏沈。則彼雖有力者。亦不得力。而我可以走化矣。
What does this mean? If you stick to the opponent with equal strength on both sides of your body, then once he opposes your strength, you will be resisting each other. This is what is meant by being equal on both sides. Being equal on both sides, you will freeze up each other’s movement and winning will return to a matter of who is strongest. If your strength on both sides is equal but then one side is loosened, this is the meaning of dropping one side. If I let go on one side, then even if the opponent has strength, he can do nothing with it and I can neutralize him.
windwalker wrote:"You mean when he's bouncing off of CXW, when CXW stumbles, or when he catches CXW off guard with that crashing in and makes him stumble back?"
In my earlier post I explained the concepts of double weight as we use it, is between mind and body with double weighting to mean that both are in the same place at the same time.
This prevents one being able to change.
In the clip cxw is not able to change, which is why in the context used he either bounces back or the other one bounces back from their own force. This means he can not attach, join,and follow.
windwalker wrote: In Solo practice or partner work this aspect is used and present all the time.
I like cxw's work BTW, even the parts of it I don't agree with.
windwalker wrote:I feel the term weight, and weighting, are not really good translations.
Ben Lo, used to talk about separating the yin from the yang. His weighting was 100/0 .
Some have talked about moving through the transitions as having a point where there is double weight. This really only occurs if one is referencing it to physical weight.
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