Jin勁

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Jin勁

Postby Yeung on Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:52 am

The Chinese character "Jin" (勁) is the combination of "Jing" (巠) and "Li" (巠). Its meaning derived from the character Li and the sound from Jing. The word Jing means water veins, and the structure of this Chinese character symbolized water flows from high level to low level and then goes underground.

The word Li has 5 basic meanings:

1. Force, cause the motion or change the moving direction of an object; basically it has 3 properties: it has different level of intensity; it has direction; it has focus
2. Power; energy: man power; intellectual power; material power; fighting power; power of reasoning; power of persuasion
3. Physical strength: man of physical strength; there is no physical strength in the limbs; use one's physical strength to push a car
4. Do all one can; make every effort: fail to do all one can at work; make every effort to strive to the top
5. This word is also use as a surname but take note that there are other words that has the same sound

The word Jin has 4 basic meanings:

1. Strength; energy: put forth strength; she seems to have inexhaustible energy; I am feeling very weak, without any strength
2. Vigour; spirit; drive; zeal: maintain the same vigour as in the year of revolution; hardworking spirit
3. Manner; expression: look at his haughty expression
4. Interest: he has no interest in playing chess

The meaning of Li can be just a single force or more than one force, as it can be singular or plural in Chinese. The meaning of Jin in Martial Arts can be simply a holistic view of forces within the human body or just a combination of forces. The kinetic chain or the 9 sets of joints of Xingyiquan are good examples of analyzing Jin.
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Re: Jin勁

Postby johnwang on Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:58 am

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Re: Jin勁

Postby taiwandeutscher on Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:26 pm

Isn't the meaning of "Jing" (巠) also the loom, with threads (a sinology prof explained that to me). So Jin could be the force travelling on Jindao (the threads)?
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Re: Jin勁

Postby HotSoup on Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:23 am

@taiwandeutscher, it's an interesting metaphor, I like it!
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Re: Jin勁

Postby D_Glenn on Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:30 pm

There’s also the meaning of Jing as the warp of fabric, versus the weft, which is weaker. Different types of thread are required for the warp: more twists/winding, and they’re generally longer. Where the weft threads can be spliced together in the weave. So Jin is analogous to aligning the movement to be parallel to the direction of the warp.

Or, say you’re tearing up an old tshirt for rags, it will easily tear across the weft but you have to use scissors to cut across the warp as it’s a lot stronger. Weft = Li; Warp = Jin

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