"Live" forms and "internal"

Discussion on the three big Chinese internals, Yiquan, Bajiquan, Piguazhang and other similar styles.

Re: "Live" forms and "internal"

Postby everything on Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:07 pm

welll...... so that is essentially an example of what i was saying. if you don't find single whip is useful for whatever people thought it's useful for, but you do find ward off is useful, then ward off is "live" as an external or internal "form". then you can merge that outer form with "internal".

personally in the gifs i posted i see an outside to inside movement and a hooking away being used effectively, just not for a "catch" (which was just another example not really meant to be conflated with single whip, at least by me. i was thinking of that aikido prank video).

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Re: "Live" forms and "internal"

Postby roger hao on Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:55 pm

The Oxygen girls at 5:00 is precisely the move that I said
I have totally given up on.
Luo De Xie can do it but he does a sticking hands palm chop.
He does not do a catch or rotate into hook hand.
He can almost put you on your face doing it. Me - not so much.
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Re: "Live" forms and "internal"

Postby roger hao on Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:02 pm

Origami Itto - I hope you are not taking what I am saying as
argument - I agree on most all points - just adding to the discussion
and telling what has not worked for me. I don't do the bouncer thing.
If I take action either myself or a loved one is in danger and I am not
planning on escorting any one any where. ( except maybe where there are no witnesses )
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Re: "Live" forms and "internal"

Postby oragami_itto on Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:02 pm

Not at all, I just love to talk shop and this is about the only place I can really do it. :D
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Re: "Live" forms and "internal"

Postby roger hao on Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:34 am

It has turned out to be excellent single whip discussion.
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