The Taijiquan of Chen Yanxi 陈延禧 (熙)

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The Taijiquan of Chen Yanxi 陈延禧 (熙)

Postby Yeung on Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:39 am

Chen Yanxi 陈延禧 (熙) had the nickname of Huijie会杰, the grandson Chen Changxing 陈长兴, eighth generation Taijiquan practitioner, 16th generation resident of Chenjiagou

People taught by Chen Yanxi according to Fu Zhensong (1946)

Chen Lianke 陈连科, 17th generation resident of Chanjiagou
Chen Fake 陈发科 (1887-1957), his son
Chen Xin 陈鑫(1849-1929), 16th generation resident of Chenjiagou
Du Yuanhua 杜元化 (1869-1938), one source said that he was the grandstudent of Chen zhongshen 陈仲甡 (sixth generation Taijiquan practitioner)
Yuan Keding袁克定 (1878-1958), the son of Yuan Shikai袁世凯 (1859-1916) who was the fist president of the Republic of China from 1913-1916.
Ji Zhiyi姬致义, a native of Huaiqingfu, Henan Province
Fu Zhensong傅振嵩 (1881-1953), his student from 1897 to 1906

The 83 Form Taijiquan of Chen Fake, performed by his student Tian Xiuchen 田秀臣(1917-1984)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD4T0ORUV1g

The 87 Form Taijiquan of Fu Zhensong, performed by his student Zhai Rongji翟榮基(1931-2005)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkuuKs0tG6k

Why are they so different?
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Re: The Taijiquan of Chen Yanxi 陈延禧 (熙)

Postby HotSoup on Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:43 am

Because Fu Zhensong also learned from Yang Chengfu, and his form is what is shown on the video?
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Re: The Taijiquan of Chen Yanxi 陈延禧 (熙)

Postby charles on Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:52 am

Yeung wrote:
The 87 Form Taijiquan of Fu Zhensong, performed by his student Zhai Rongji翟榮基(1931-2005)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkuuKs0tG6k



The description of the video states:

Fu Style Tai Chi was created by Master Fu ZhenSong (1881~1953) . Fu style Tai Chi has 88 Movements. This is based on Yang Style Tai Chi and combine with some Bagua & XingYi Technique . The Performer is Fu ZhenSong disciple -- Sifu Zhai RongJi .


As Hotsoup said, one is Chen style, the other is a combination form of Yang style, bagua and xingyi. It's comparing apples and radiators.
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Re: The Taijiquan of Chen Yanxi 陈延禧 (熙)

Postby HotSoup on Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:07 am

Also, if you are genuinely interested in some hints to what Chen Yanxi's TJQ might look like, there is a video of his student, Du Yuze:



But to be honest, trying to find connections by comparing the external expressions might be fruitless. People are different and their memory is not the best knowledge repository to allow for doing exactly same things over generations.
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Re: The Taijiquan of Chen Yanxi 陈延禧 (熙)

Postby wayne hansen on Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:39 pm

I have always thought that Du shows it is modern Chen that changed not yang
I don't get why the Fu guy is shown he is doing Yang 108 not even the Fu form
I learnt fu from someone in the fu wing Fei line she also learnt Chen thru that line
Even though I didn't learn Chen from her it was pretty standard Chen
Don't put power into the form let it naturally arise from the form
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Re: The Taijiquan of Chen Yanxi 陈延禧 (熙)

Postby greytowhite on Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:04 am

http://www.thewushucentre.ca/people-clu ... dahai.html

I'm interested how the Taiji Changquan from Jiang and Yao relate to Chen Yanxi.
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