Let's Regulate Qi Gong or for that Matter Taiji, Bagua etc.

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Re: Let's Regulate Qi Gong or for that Matter Taiji, Bagua etc.

Postby Steve James on Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:01 pm

There's the law and then there's the reason for the law. But, I think that "qigong" is just too broad. If it means regulating who can perform "qigong" in a clinic or hospital, okay; that sounds reasonable. But, that seems like a situation where some form of payment is involved. I have no idea how standards could be derived or enforced. However, the reason for the regulation makes sense.

Otoh, some laws are designed by people just to prevent others from enjoying themselves, or because they are perceived as a social, cultural, or economic threat. I.e., the laws that are mechanisms of control.
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Re: Let's Regulate Qi Gong or for that Matter Taiji, Bagua etc.

Postby Appledog on Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:18 pm

windwalker wrote:The same questions can be posed "who or what is a qualified instructor of taiji"


windwalker wrote:funny, often posted here,,,,
90% of taiji people dont know or teach taiji,,,there needs to be
some standard to go by..


Ahh yes, and the oft-implied corollary, "I know the realTai Chi and the others are just fakes, posers, etc..."

Everyone can rest assured. Regarding those players who have a vested interest in remaining Tai Chi only -- and who have, over many long years, carefully avoided crosstraining with other arts -- I can tell you that if the situation gets bad enough, there are enough of these people willing to form a new sports body and assume credibility in the community. This can be done easily, even if only by the credible and unified product they have to offer where other schools may not be able to offer such complete and unified training. I can also tell you that there is an estimated "million dollars" waiting in the wings for an effort like this to go through.

But factoring time out of the equation the only problem right now is lack of funding.. Even a million dollars isn't really enough to launch a foundational effort for such a project. Nobody wants to be the next USAWKF; these people have learned hard lessons from the mistakes of others. So it will happen when it happens. The way I see it nothing will happen for at least another seven or eight years. I would also point out to be fair, I have heard as many as 15 years.

I'd also point out that the 'winds of change' surrounding government regulation of things like Acupuncture and herbal medicine (as well as qigong, tai chi, etc) are strong driving forces for a credible community based self-regulating sports body. The last thing anyone wants is for the government to start dictating what is and what is not Tai Chi. But I would consider it a well known problem.

I am very sure that some exciting things will happen in the future. We just have to wait and be patient. But the effort is definitely there, in the background, can you feel it?
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Re: Let's Regulate Qi Gong or for that Matter Taiji, Bagua etc.

Postby meeks on Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:30 pm

Putting into a different perspective:
Can you imagine if something like the Taoist Taiji Society became the defacto standard for what type of taiji can only be taught? Simply because they're a large group...must be quality stuff..
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Re: Let's Regulate Qi Gong or for that Matter Taiji, Bagua etc.

Postby Appledog on Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:29 pm

meeks wrote:Putting into a different perspective:
Can you imagine if something like the Taoist Taiji Society became the defacto standard for what type of taiji can only be taught? Simply because they're a large group...must be quality stuff..


I spent four years volunteering behind the desk of a main branch of the TTCS. I also lived next to them on D'arcy street and helped out with the food donations. I learned a lot about how they work on a business and social level and a lot of what they do is actually good, from that perspective...
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Re: Let's Regulate Qi Gong or for that Matter Taiji, Bagua etc.

Postby wiesiek on Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:03 am

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Re: Let's Regulate Qi Gong or for that Matter Taiji, Bagua etc.

Postby meeks on Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:22 pm

Appledog wrote:
meeks wrote:Putting into a different perspective:
Can you imagine if something like the Taoist Taiji Society became the defacto standard for what type of taiji can only be taught? Simply because they're a large group...must be quality stuff..


I spent four years volunteering behind the desk of a main branch of the TTCS. I also lived next to them on D'arcy street and helped out with the food donations. I learned a lot about how they work on a business and social level and a lot of what they do is actually good, from that perspective...


I don't disagree that as an outreach program its effective. I'm pointing out that there shouldn't be 1 "this is the one to follow because it's the largest group"
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Re: Let's Regulate Qi Gong or for that Matter Taiji, Bagua etc.

Postby HotSoup on Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:12 am

Appledog wrote:I spent four years volunteering behind the desk of a main branch of the TTCS. I also lived next to them on D'arcy street and helped out with the food donations. I learned a lot about how they work on a business and social level and a lot of what they do is actually good, from that perspective...


But what does it have to do with actual TJQ?
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