Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

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Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby johnwang on Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:55 pm

From the application point of view, the back hand is too far away from the leading hand. It's difficult to apply the switching hands strategy. Also, the right side door is open for

- left hook punch,
- left high roundhouse kick,
- right high hook kick.

Your thought?

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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby Bill on Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:04 pm

I agree, it's a training stance, not a fighting stance.
For fighting the left hand needs to be held higher and the weight should be closer to 50/50 or shifting than 70/30 or 100/0.
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby everything on Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:42 pm

it probably made sense as a spear/stick stance. if we assume 1v1, guaranteed unarmed fighting of some sort, it's a different question. I think a better question is:

- does it make sense as a stance assuming staff, stick, double stick/blades, weapons at hand, then maybe empty hand.

probably yes?
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby meeks on Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:20 pm

I'm along the lines that if someone assumes a stance they've stopped engaging an attack
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby Bao on Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:17 pm

JW, why do you assume that someone would keep his hands in that position when he fights?

It's for practice, jibengong. Why does a boxer skip rope if he doesn't use the rope to fight with?
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby meeks on Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:05 am

Not sure if your response is to my comment but it sounds like we agree with each other.
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby Bao on Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:16 am

meeks wrote:Not sure if your response is to my comment but it sounds like we agree with each other.


No not to you, to the OP. Yes, we agree. Will make it clearer.
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby johnwang on Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:22 pm

Bao wrote:JW, why do you assume that someone would keep his hands in that position when he fights?

It's for practice, jibengong. Why does a boxer skip rope if he doesn't use the rope to fight with?

You don't have to separate application from health. There is always a way to map Jibengong into application. You can always kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

By moving your back hand closer to your leading hand.

PRO:

- You can apply switching hands principle.
- Your center line is more protected.
- You can protect your right side door with your right elbow.

CON: You body is not fully stretched.

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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby oragami_itto on Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:44 pm

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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby Steve James on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:23 pm

Yeah, but what if the other guy does santi too? Then what?
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby oragami_itto on Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:30 pm

Somebody's gotta attack sometime
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby Steve James on Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:01 pm

Yep, I think ya'll are talking about a "before" fighting stance.
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby Steve James on Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:04 pm

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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby edededed on Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:35 pm

The typical santi stance is just the end shape of piquan.
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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

Postby oragami_itto on Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:41 pm

What about this one?


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