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Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:55 pm
by johnwang
From the application point of view, the back hand is too far away from the leading hand. It's difficult to apply the switching hands strategy. Also, the right side door is open for

- left hook punch,
- left high roundhouse kick,
- right high hook kick.

Your thought?

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Example of right hook kick to the head.


Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:04 pm
by Bill
I agree, it's a training stance, not a fighting stance.
For fighting the left hand needs to be held higher and the weight should be closer to 50/50 or shifting than 70/30 or 100/0.

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:42 pm
by everything
it probably made sense as a spear/stick stance. if we assume 1v1, guaranteed unarmed fighting of some sort, it's a different question. I think a better question is:

- does it make sense as a stance assuming staff, stick, double stick/blades, weapons at hand, then maybe empty hand.

probably yes?

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:20 pm
by meeks
I'm along the lines that if someone assumes a stance they've stopped engaging an attack

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:17 pm
by Bao
JW, why do you assume that someone would keep his hands in that position when he fights?

It's for practice, jibengong. Why does a boxer skip rope if he doesn't use the rope to fight with?

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:05 am
by meeks
Not sure if your response is to my comment but it sounds like we agree with each other.

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:16 am
by Bao
meeks wrote:Not sure if your response is to my comment but it sounds like we agree with each other.


No not to you, to the OP. Yes, we agree. Will make it clearer.

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:22 pm
by johnwang
Bao wrote:JW, why do you assume that someone would keep his hands in that position when he fights?

It's for practice, jibengong. Why does a boxer skip rope if he doesn't use the rope to fight with?

You don't have to separate application from health. There is always a way to map Jibengong into application. You can always kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

By moving your back hand closer to your leading hand.

PRO:

- You can apply switching hands principle.
- Your center line is more protected.
- You can protect your right side door with your right elbow.

CON: You body is not fully stretched.

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Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:44 pm
by origami_itto

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:23 pm
by Steve James
Yeah, but what if the other guy does santi too? Then what?

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:30 pm
by origami_itto
Somebody's gotta attack sometime

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:01 pm
by Steve James
Yep, I think ya'll are talking about a "before" fighting stance.

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:04 pm
by Steve James

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:35 pm
by edededed
The typical santi stance is just the end shape of piquan.

Re: Is Santi Shi a good fighting stance?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:41 pm
by origami_itto
What about this one?


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