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Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby aiasthewall on Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:08 pm

I have been thinking about the tongue/throat area since I was diagnosed with severe obstructive sleep apnea about 2 years ago. The subject title stricture is everywhere, but there is more to it than I thought. I had always placed the tip of the tongue lightly on the palate, and ignored the large base. The tongue is a powerful muscle, and the idea seems to be to put the entirety of the tongue on the top palate, not just the tip. If one smiles like a crazy person and raises there eyebrows and swallows, this will put the tongue in the correct position. The tongue kind of lifts the head and neck into the the correct position as well.

It's not a natural (for me) position at all, and it takes some force or muscle to get it in the right spot, though I imagine it will get easier over time. I'm curious if anyone else has experienced this.

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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby everything on Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:56 pm

It's not supposed to be done forcefully, and it's supposed to be for qigong purposes, but that's interesting about the neck.
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby aiasthewall on Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:28 pm

I know the qiqong reasons of connecting the channels, but often there seem to be connected physiological reasons for these things. The connection of the neck and thus shoulders indicates this to me.

And I think if the muscle is properly conditioned it won't be forceful, but it the beginning of takes a little force.
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby wayne hansen on Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:07 pm

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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby everything on Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:16 pm

Yeah I guess how much force is force just depends. I've only tried barely putting it there to try to see if that will help the microcosmic orbit.

Not sure if the dentist reasons for doing this match up to the qigong or IMA reasons (although perhaps there is some happy coincidence).
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby wiesiek on Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:35 am

after 20+ years of keepin` my tongue there, I still cannot swear ,that it is helpin` me in micro/macro circulations,
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`cause I had plenty of time to get used it, I do not quit :)
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby Bao on Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:53 am

If you relax your face, jaws and neck the tongue will spread upwards like a fan. It just means that you relax properly. Nothing else necessary.
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby robert on Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:29 am

wayne hansen wrote:The rain of Heavenly Dew

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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:57 pm

I have met very few who have felt it or can describe it
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby GrahamB on Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:39 pm

Just put your tongue tip behind the 2 front teeth and stop worrying so much.

You’re not going to feel anything unless you have reverse breathing going on.
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby aiasthewall on Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:00 pm

I don't worry but simply found it interesting that the tongue has such a direct connection with the placement of the head and spinal health.

Try going five years without real REM sleep, you'd be interested as well.

I do reverse breathing and related practices. But I've found physical adjustments have positive (or negative) consquences for qiqong work. Any improvement thereof seems important.
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby everything on Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:37 pm

Have you tried sitting or lying down qigong instead?
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby GrahamB on Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:56 pm

Ah, I see.

Have you tried a consistent 20 mins zhan zhuang per day?

That seems to make a real difference to posture all by itself. Lets the body rebalance.

Here are some tips:

https://taichinotebook.wordpress.com/20 ... ke-a-tree/
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby Appledog on Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:51 am

GrahamB wrote:Just put your tongue tip behind the 2 front teeth and stop worrying so much.

You’re not going to feel anything unless you have reverse breathing going on.


It doesn't require reverse breathing. You can also breath naturally.
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Re: Tongue on roof of mouth

Postby Dmitri on Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:07 am

Is the guy in the OP suggesting we walk around forcefully pressing the tongue into that position as much as possible? Not sure what the context is, but continually flexing those muscles seems completely unnatural.
There are many ways to have good posture while loosening things instead of tightening them.
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