D_Glenn wrote:Every time he says ‘hung’ in the video and uses his forearm to hit the guy’s guard, is what I’m talking about. The whole entirety of the video is about using hung/ heng to set up subsequent punches. I would have to list about 60 different time stamps, so it might be easier to just watch with sound on, and know what the heng quan is in xyq so you know what you’re watching for.
marvin8 wrote:
D_Glenn wrote:marvin8 wrote:
Not disparaging Foreman at all, but that’s almost 5 minutes of softening up and pummeling of Coomey, and he’s knocked the f out by that uppercut, the second punch was unnecessary, he was already falling down. But that could be a good tactic: first attack of a fight- use an uppercut.
In the interest of discussion and some comparison, in the xingyi video he uses a heng then an uppercut at: 1:13
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GrahamB wrote:Btw the Forman clip is fantastic - a great example of just being in the zone - appropriate technique at the appropriate time. I don’t think that was planned in advance.
Steve James wrote:Afa Foreman's punch, his opponent's hands were high --expecting a head shot. Foreman's left came from below. It was the "punch he didn't see coming." However, that second punch to the head did him in completely.
I believe it’s meant to be about applying traditional Chinese ma to boxing or kickboxing, and restraining it to those rulesets.
D_Glenn wrote:Re: marvin
I haven’t boxed, so my opinions have no standing and I have no frame of reference.
I’m simply asking: if someone has boxed, (trained boxing for X amount of time; participated in X number of matches) then reply whether you think this application of Heng would work in an actual boxing or kickboxing match.
rojcewiczj wrote:Recently I came across this Chinese youtube channel which gives informative demonstrations as to the difference between traditional fighting methods, particularly Xingyi, and those of modern sanda/ kickboxing.
C.J.W. wrote:The OP's clip is meant to show that Xingyi's Tiger Pouncing and Horizontal Pi Chuan are also found in boxing, and how they can be applied with Xingyi flavor and body mechanics in the ring.
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