yi-quan repelling upon contact

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Re: yi-quan repelling upon contact

Postby wuwei on Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:21 pm

I think you guys are talking about 一觸即發, demonstrated here by Master Yip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 2-I3Q3dbP0

When two structures meet, the weaker one will be bounced off the stronger one.

I am personally with Master Wang, this kind of structural force display seems to work much better in a demo situation rather than a fighting one.
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Re: yi-quan repelling upon contact

Postby Taste of Death on Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:48 pm

wuwei wrote:I think you guys are talking about 一觸即發, demonstrated here by Master Yip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... 2-I3Q3dbP0

When two structures meet, the weaker one will be bounced off the stronger one.

I am personally with Master Wang, this kind of structural force display seems to work much better in a demo situation rather than a fighting one.


The "structural force display" is about body conditioning. Fighting is about fighting.

You train this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYh8_LpVB04

So you can do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJiWQ8qVA3c

Weight training, running sprints and yoga are about body conditioning. Rugby is about rugby.

You train this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wRuWHUmAHo

And this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BGy1a6rloY

So you can do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQaZzZpCTzA

Different training yields different results.
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Re: yi-quan repelling upon contact

Postby everything on Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:15 pm

good videos, thanks a lot. when they do those exercises, what kind of points do they emphasize?

here is an interesting translation of wang's writing:
https://brennantranslation.wordpress.co ... of-yiquan/

which interestingly references some taijiquan references and says similar points (sink energy etc)
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Re: yi-quan repelling upon contact

Postby Taste of Death on Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:14 pm

everything wrote:good videos, thanks a lot. when they do those exercises, what kind of points do they emphasize?

here is an interesting translation of wang's writing:
https://brennantranslation.wordpress.co ... of-yiquan/

which interestingly references some taijiquan references and says similar points (sink energy etc)


The first set is about directional movement (up and down, back and forth, etc) and can be practiced with a partner holding the wrists. When he puts his hands behind his back at the end the partner would push against his sternum with the energy that is expressed pushing him back and down.

The second set is about feeling the energy while moving and holding on to one's zhuangtai. This is the most taiji-like part of Han Shi YI Quan's repertoire with the five fists being more xingyi-like.
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Re: yi-quan repelling upon contact

Postby wayne hansen on Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:59 pm

What videos are you talking about here
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Re: yi-quan repelling upon contact

Postby everything on Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:47 pm

Taste of Death wrote:
everything wrote:good videos, thanks a lot. when they do those exercises, what kind of points do they emphasize?

here is an interesting translation of wang's writing:
https://brennantranslation.wordpress.co ... of-yiquan/

which interestingly references some taijiquan references and says similar points (sink energy etc)


The first set is about directional movement (up and down, back and forth, etc) and can be practiced with a partner holding the wrists. When he puts his hands behind his back at the end the partner would push against his sternum with the energy that is expressed pushing him back and down.

The second set is about feeling the energy while moving and holding on to one's zhuangtai. This is the most taiji-like part of Han Shi YI Quan's repertoire with the five fists being more xingyi-like.


Very cool, you can see those influences or similarities, I think.
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