everything wrote:Wang, Sun, Yang, all of those guys said to first sink qi to dantian. Why not?
everything wrote: You think it's some weird elaborate metaphor that actually means "fascia"?
I guess my main answer is qigong and IMA are kind of boring.
Bao wrote:No one says that you should ”sink the qi” except for some highly commercial teachers today. Traditionally no one have ever said it. Not Yang masters, Wu masters or Sun masters. No one.
Methods of Applying Taijiquan by YCF wrote:Taiji Boxing Beginning Posture - Preparation
... Spirit is now consolidated within and energy is sinking to the elixir field. ...
氣沉丹田
qi chen dantian
qi sinks (to) dantian
YCF wrote:However, people typically are liable to neglect this posture, ignorant in particular that regardless of whatever technique is being practiced or applied, none of them can be disassociated from this one. I hope the reader or student will give it first priority and pay attention to it.
Bao wrote:Yes exactly, YCF said “Qi sinks...”, not “sink the qi.” He also said that Qi sinks by itself and that you should not force it or pay too much attention on qi.
Bao wrote:Yes exactly, YCF said “Qi sinks...”, not “sink the qi.” He also said that Qi sinks by itself and that you should not force it or pay too much attention on qi.
robert wrote:Bao wrote:Yes exactly, YCF said “Qi sinks...”, not “sink the qi.” He also said that Qi sinks by itself and that you should not force it or pay too much attention on qi.
That's semantics. Saying sink the qi means follow the body requirements that allow the qi to sink.
Bao wrote:Semantics? Absolutely not. It's about honesty and being clear about what you do. If you say "now I sink the qi" or "you need to sink the qi" anyone who does not understand "the body requirements that allow the qi to sink" will believe that you are supposed to do something directly with Qi.
robert wrote: It depends on context.
everything wrote:Even Wang Xiangzhai said this.
If you don't want to believe it or think they're wrong or don't care, that's another story.
I'm interested in what those guys said.
Many years ago I went to Ben Lo's camps. People wondered where his skill came from. He just said it was doing form. Of course that made absolutely zero sense at the time. So I get it that this makes no sense to people.
But why WOULDNT people just give things a try? I suppose I wouldn't either without some kind of odd real life experience.
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