What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby johnwang on Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:09 pm

edededed wrote:John, all of your examples sound like typical CMA true stories!

It comes from a book "Letters between a teacher and his main disciple". It makes me sad ad sick big time.

May be the striking art teacher can hide his secret if that teacher never spars with his students. I just don't believe a throwing art teacher can hide his secret. When a throwing art teacher wrestles with his students, everything that a teacher can do will be exposed to the students.
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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby edededed on Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:16 pm

That is a benefit of shuaijiao for sure.

Even arts that have shuaifa (but are not solely dedicated to it) like longfist, bagua, etc. can hide, because the throwing/wrestling part is not really practiced in that way (via sparring).

But I guess you can still hide secrets in shuaijiao by just not teaching some techniques.
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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby johnwang on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:11 pm

edededed wrote:But I guess you can still hide secrets in shuaijiao by just not teaching some techniques.

I cannot find any reason to hide. I don't want one day that my student will say, "That SOB didn't want to teach me the true SC."

Everything that I know and can do, I have recorded on video and give to my students. It's my own reputation that I need to protect. I just don't understand why other teachers may not think the way as I do.

Bring your knowledge to your grave, for what?
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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby johnwang on Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:13 pm

Teacher: If anybody can answer the following 3 questions, I'll pay him $30,000.
Student: Someone has already published a book with all your 3 questions and answers.
teacher: ...

Some CMA system deserves to be dead.
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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby edededed on Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:03 pm

I guess that many old teachers just don't care about their art's survival or their students' reputation, etc.
They are happy to be skilled and do not care much that their art will disappear.

Others had to go through much to get the art, so don't want to give it away easily - I remember your own stories about how you learned mahua, herbal recipies, etc.

A generous teacher like you who is very open with the knowledge and training is a rare jewel, much respect to you!
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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby johnwang on Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:30 pm

Student: Why are you watching me when I teach my students?
Teacher: I want to make sure that you don't release my secret to your students.
Student: I only teach my students style X and style Y that I have learned from my other teachers. I will never teach the style A and style B that I have learned from you.

Some CMA systems deserve to be dead (such as style A and style B).
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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby suckinlhbf on Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:46 pm

Student: Teacher, how to do this move right?
Teacher: F**k you. Do I have to tell you?

It is not from books. It is real. I was there.

Some CMA systems deserve to be dead

It is dying.
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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby everything on Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:34 pm

As long as people feel they should fight or just find it fun, how to kick, punch, trip, throw, wrestle, lock, etc. other people efficiently will never die. It's not like rocket science or nuclear physics or some other field that needs generations of brilliant people to teach other generations. Even if all MA died in some fictional apocalypse blip of mass amnesia of all humankind, we could reinvent all of it.

But as far as individual selfishness and stupidity and self-induced CMA death? Doesn't seem very preventable. I think this ties into the other thread because no freedom or sharing of information = bad information gets propagated, it's useless, therefore that thing goes away.
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Re: What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

Postby SPJ on Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:10 pm

johnwang wrote:What will you do if your CMA teacher tells you this?

- If you demonstrate your form in public, you should always add in some extra moves.

Well.

Some simple moves in repetition are good enough for show and tell.

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