ground question: cartwheel pass?

[ashe]

One drawback about surfing via mobile is you don't gets no video...

[everything]

that was hilarious. who says capoeira isn't useful? looks like the guy got poked in the eye

handstand - nah, was asking about an actual cartwheel

[everything]

here's the first one i saw:


I had my son try one that ended up more like this:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1005940/cartwheel_pass/

[Kurt Robbins]

I have tried this in various arrangements and can only pull it off with newbies. If you can get the suprise factor or the set up right I think you can be moderatly successful, but against seasoned grapplers your going to get stuffed or worse.

[everything]

Thanks, Kurt. Good to know it's just a novelty act.

[Kurt Robbins]

This is the cartwheel i was trying to pull off the butterfly guard, but I am NO Marcelo Garcia :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zSGHX7NPAQ

[everything]

very nice.

[fuga]

marcelo garcia is inspiring - I was watching his ADCC clips and damn...

[CaliG]

I have tried this in various arrangements and can only pull it off with newbies. If you can get the suprise factor or the set up right I think you can be moderatly successful, but against seasoned grapplers your going to get stuffed or worse.

I agree, when you're passing you have to control their legs somehow, if both your hands are doing a cartwheel that's not possible.

The handstand guard pass does work well against the butterfly guard because you're controlling them as you do it. I saw Junie Browning pull if off in the finals of the Ultimate Fighter last night.

[Jeice]

I have tried this in various arrangements and can only pull it off with newbies. If you can get the suprise factor or the set up right I think you can be moderatly successful, but against seasoned grapplers your going to get stuffed or worse.

LOL.
And just like that, the CP is relegated to uselessness. All those wasted hours of practice and successes in randori... I'M SO SORRY!

[Dmitri]

unfortunately he ended right back up in guard

I think that's because he didn't control the guy's right leg (ankle) in the beginning, as he advocates here:

http://www.strimoo.com/video/13026322/K ... ideos.html

[everything]

very nice.

[Formosa Neijia]

I have tried this in various arrangements and can only pull it off with newbies. If you can get the suprise factor or the set up right I think you can be moderatly successful, but against seasoned grapplers your going to get stuffed or worse.

LOL.
And just like that, the CP is relegated to uselessness. All those wasted hours of practice and successes in randori... I'M SO SORRY!

It's just like anything else: if you train it as a signature move of yours, you'll likely get it down enough to use against anyone. I personally wouldn't use it as a bread and butter pass but that's me. Your style may be different and that's fine.

Dave C.

[everything]

yes very cool if you can do it, and do it consistently. I'm going to play around with it

[Jeice]