suckinlhbf wrote:Chinese description is yao (腰) kua (胯). The focus is the KUA. Some people call the power from kua as dragon jin, and from spine as tiger jin. Combining kua and spine generates dragon tiger jin. The power is huge.
D_Glenn wrote:Most people doing martial arts in the world are really only using a rudimentary Kua power, if even that, usually just chest/trunk rotation and shoulders. It takes a lot of work to find and isolate the muscles of the waist. Having strong superficial abdominal rectus muscles (six pack abs) will often hide, or create a sort of static that gets in the way of one’s gaining somatic control of the deeper transverse abdominals.
D_Glenn wrote:Most people doing martial arts in the world are really only using a rudimentary Kua power, if even that, usually just chest/trunk rotation and shoulders. It takes a lot of work to find and isolate the muscles of the waist. Having strong superficial abdominal rectus muscles (six pack abs) will often hide, or create a sort of static that gets in the way of one’s gaining somatic control of the deeper transverse abdominals.
D_Glenn wrote:Re: Marvin
The TVA are what drives the waist (Yao) power.
Kua power is essentially the two femurs working in unison to turn the whole pelvis from side to side- hip(s) power.
D_Glenn wrote:When it’s properly strengthened, it’s a really powerful muscle, it also plays a part in the flexion of the lumbar spine, so it’s also key to having a more powerful Fali. They control the 2 methods of the waist called Zhedie and Zhuanhuan. Establishing a connection between the linkage of all the soft tissues and muscles between the waist and the attacking arms is where the work is. Too lengthy to describe here. It’s called obtaining the six harmonies.
D_Glenn wrote:Kua/Hip power can also be trained to produce a big power, which can be harmonized with the waist and impart a greater power. The upper torso and spine can also be trained to have its own power. If you consider the waist to be the lower Dantian power, then the chest is the power of the middle Dantian. If you’re emphasizing the power of the middle dantian, then the rotational power (zhuanhuan), of the waist, doesn’t really have to be strong. But, the Fali/ lumbar power (Zhedie) can still be added to the middle Dantian power.
In Baguazhang this chest power (aka Han Li) is also considered part of the Dragon, but it’s the Li Trigram Rooster that really uses this dragon power to the extreme.
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D_Glenn wrote:I never said that it was “ “more powerful “ “. You’re the one who wrote that. So I’m not going to answer a question about a statement that I never even made.
I should clarify that the only way to Fali is by using the TVA and movement of the lumbar sacrum and tailbone, but that’s considered moving and using the waist (lumbar is Yaobei - waistback/ back of the waist).
D_Glenn wrote:When it’s (TVA) properly strengthened, it’s a really powerful muscle, it also plays a part in the flexion of the lumbar spine, so it’s also key to having a more powerful Fali. They control the 2 methods of the waist called Zhedie and Zhuanhuan.
D_Glenn wrote:Most people doing martial arts in the world are really only using a rudimentary Kua power, if even that, usually just chest/trunk rotation and shoulders. It takes a lot of work to find and isolate the muscles of the waist. Having strong superficial abdominal rectus muscles (six pack abs) will often hide, or create a sort of static that gets in the way of one’s gaining somatic control of the deeper transverse abdominals.
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