Shuai Jiao or Judo?

Discussion on the three big Chinese internals, Yiquan, Bajiquan, Piguazhang and other similar styles.

Re: Shuai Jiao or Judo?

Postby marvin8 on Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:51 am

Ian wrote:You don't need jackets to make judo work on the street. It's good to be familiar with using some material.

Yes. These throwers (tori) use more of an armpit grip—which may give more material to grab (doesn't require sleeves) and more control (push/pull, defense/offense).

Here Shohei Ono uses the armpit grip for defense and distance control: block opponent's attack, restrict their movement and keep them at a safe distance.

Decoding Judo - Grappler Kingdom
Published on Apr 27, 2019

A short study about a rare O Soto Gari variation and a unusual, but very effective gripping tactic that one of the best modern-day judokas Shohei Ono likes to use:
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Re: Shuai Jiao or Judo?

Postby Trick on Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:39 am

Trick wrote:Just seek out your nearest Glima instructor(or travel to Iceland and combine your wrestling practice with a cool vacation) and you’ll get all levels of wrestling, from Lausa-tök to Brokar-tök.......

Some more Scandinavian “judo” promotion 8-) ... of-iceland
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Re: Shuai Jiao or Judo?

Postby dspyrido on Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:32 pm

marvin8 wrote:Khabib said he trained and used Combat Sambo which is already based on punches, kicks, elbows and knees, headbutts and groin strikes, in addition to throws, holds, chokes and locks. Punches, kicks and throws don't need to be "added" to Combat Sambo:
Khabib Nurmagomedov wrote:We are Combat Sambo fighters. . . . And, now Chael Sonnen talk about we’re not sambo fighters we’re only wrestling. Hey, please, wrestling is much easier than Combat Sambo. Because, I am wrestling too. When I was young I competition in wrestling, judo, Greco Roman. It’s much easier.

Wrestling is easier to khabib. Noooo kidding. The guy who is known for and specialises in take downs, compression and pinning to setup submissions feels that it's much easier than other stuff. Who would have thought.... ::)

Anyway yes he combat sambos, he boxes, kickboxes, judo throws, MT, even does some spinning and jumping shit....You can even say he does ufc but he really hasn't mastered the art of shit talking yet..... 8-)

The point ... sj or judo? The answer - why dismiss other great styles if they are accessible. Hell I'd give glima, sumo, cornish etc etc a shot if it was available because it's all wrestling at the end of the day with different cultural references and rule sets.

That said the more open rules in sport fighting the more interesting.
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Re: Shuai Jiao or Judo?

Postby Ian on Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:38 am

middleway wrote:Almost every one of them involved someone either gripping my clothing or me gripping theirs. Further, in that environment, even at the height of summer i was never in what i would call a 'no gi' situation.

Yup. Comfort across a wide range of disciplines is the key.





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