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Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:02 am
by origami_itto
In some forms, you slap your foot when you kick.

Do you practice any? What is the purpose?
Do you kick your hand, or do you slap your foot?

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:50 am
by GrahamB
I find it makes people who can't do it really annoyed with you because you can. That might not be its intended purpose, but it works for me :)

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:57 pm
by Bao
oragami_itto wrote:In some forms, you slap your foot when you kick.
Do you practice any?


Uh, yes...

Do you kick your hand, it so you slap your foot?


No, you slap the side of the foot or the ankle. That's where someone might try to grab the foot.

What is the purpose?


So you won't forget the application, to slap away a hand that tries to grab your foot.

They are also good for demonstrations. If you first go very slow and calm and then suddenly slap your foot loudly it will cause some reactions... like girls shouting out... (shock obviously) That's kinda fun.

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:03 pm
by jaime_g
I was taught the opposite, to kick a raised hand instead of slapping the foot. Same idea, to break a grab using a kick or to kick through a clinch or a wrist control

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:29 pm
by marvin8
Bao wrote:
oragami_itto wrote:In some forms, you slap your foot when you kick.
Do you practice any?


Uh, yes...

Do you kick your hand, it so you slap your foot?


No, you slap the side of the foot or the ankle. That's where someone might try to grab the foot.

What is the purpose?


So you won't forget the application, to slap away a hand that tries to grab your foot.

Yes. This video covers reasons for slapping the foot (e.g., push hand away, strike, distraction (high/low strategy), etc.

Jiang Hu
Published on Jun 29, 2017

Why do we slap the foot in Shaolin Kung Fu forms? 青龙探爪 qing long tan zhua, the Green Dragon's spying claw is a common Shaolin technique. Explained by Joshua Viney:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDh4Crja4DI

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:36 pm
by MaartenSFS
Both, actually. The slap represents an attack to the face and the kick is to the groin. Try attacking someone like that, it is very effective. All of my kicks are in unison with hands techniques. The power should be about 75% kick and 25% slap. The only reason to slap your foot is to stretch. If you can do it properly then you are athletic enough. It also looks/sounds cool. Breaking a foot hold like that is proposterous.. A lot of movements are exaggerated like this purely to improve Jibengong.

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:10 pm
by johnwang
If you can still do this at your old age, your flexibility is still good.


Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:12 pm
by wayne hansen
What about spinning lotus kick

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:19 pm
by johnwang
wayne hansen wrote:What about spinning lotus kick

Your hand position can check your foot contact position.

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:29 pm
by robert
wayne hansen wrote:What about spinning lotus kick

In Chen taiji we have swing kick (before drop down then golden rooster).

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Although it's called a kick the application I've been shown is a sweep - the upper body turns one way the lower body the opposite so it makes some sense to slap the foot.

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:52 pm
by johnwang
robert wrote:Although it's called a kick the application I've been shown is a sweep - the upper body turns one way the lower body the opposite so it makes some sense to slap the foot.

Many people may think that the Taiji lotus kick can be used for foot sweep. If we look at the foot sweep require, the lotus kick doesn't meet those requirement.

- The rooting leg has to bend.
- The knee has to bend before the kick.

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:19 am
by Trick
It’s a gymnastics move + a reminder/practice to not lean away too much.

As application to slap away an hand that try to grab ones foot I really can not get my mind around.
My leg has been caught uncountable times while trying to plant a kick, this was back when I tournament and Dojo fought/sparred, you either quickly throw a punch to opponents face or grab onto him...won’t do to slap at the opponents grabbing hand/arm, while trying to do something like that one will be slammed to the ground

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:52 am
by Trick
Is foot to hand slapping while kicking found in southern styles of GongFu, such as in Fuijianese White-Crane gongfu ?

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:53 pm
by robert
johnwang wrote:- The rooting leg has to bend.
- The knee has to bend before the kick.

Here's an example.

https://youtu.be/Holnh-VEysA?t=3m58s

Re: Slapping the foot during kicks

PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:51 pm
by johnwang
robert wrote:
johnwang wrote:- The rooting leg has to bend.
- The knee has to bend before the kick.

Here's an example.

https://youtu.be/Holnh-VEysA?t=3m58s

Don't see any foot sweep in this clip.