Bao wrote: I am not sure if walking backwards as here is the best way to practice though.
I prefer to move in circle toward my opponent's blind side and away from his back hand.

Bao wrote: I am not sure if walking backwards as here is the best way to practice though.
johnwang wrote:One thing that I regret very much is the long fist system doesn't have this kind of partner training. The long fist system only have 2 men form which is different than partner drill. If I can ever relive my life again, I will spend most of my training time in this kind of partner drill instead of the solo form training.
Here is another partner drill that I like.
C.J.W. wrote:One of my teachers used to advise against overdoing this type of choreographed drills. He believes that they build bad habits for fighting by "making your heart and hands too soft."
The reasoning behind it is that those drills are basically a series of sloppily executed techniques. Ideally, you want to be able to knock down the opponent with just one move -- as opposed to purposely holding back so that your partner can have the chance to counter and continue the drill.
johnwang wrote:Subitai wrote:= Then always come back to the mother and start again.
Agree! The punch/block drill is only the staring point. It can move into more complicate partner training.
This is the famous Baji "tiger climb mountain 猛虎硬爬山".
- Downward parry, palm strike (same as XingYi Pi Quan)
- chest punch (same as XingYi Beng Quan),
- elbow strike (Baji elbow).
- palm strike.
One can see that Baji and XingYi have a lot of similarity,
johnwang wrote:oragami_itto wrote:Would be better if they were standing close enough to hit each other.
What do you think about this distance?
johnwang wrote:Bao wrote: I am not sure if walking backwards as here is the best way to practice though.
I prefer to move in circle toward my opponent's blind side and away from his back hand.
Overlord wrote:
MaartenSFS wrote:Overlord wrote:
This really doesn't do it for me. Too complacent. Too long and complicated. Too unrealistic. No power.
MaartenSFS wrote:Too complacent. Too long and complicated. Too unrealistic. No power.
Overlord wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:Overlord wrote:
This really doesn't do it for me. Too complacent. Too long and complicated. Too unrealistic. No power.
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Wow.....very powerful statement indeed.
johnwang wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:Too complacent. Too long and complicated. Too unrealistic. No power.
It's 2 men form and no longer partner drill. IMO, the partner drill should be no more than 3 moves.
What's the problem with 2 men form? In order to finish the whole form, you have to "intentionally" make your move to fail. The more that you have "learned how to fail", the less that you will accumulate the correct experience.
The 2 men form is the opposite of the "knock/take your opponent down ASAP".
In the following clip, if your leg
1. can control your opponent's back leg, when you push on his chest, he will be down.
2. can't control your opponent's back leg, he will escape, and the 2 men form will continue.
1 is the right way to train. 2 is not.
MaartenSFS wrote:Overlord wrote:MaartenSFS wrote:
Too much of that bullshit floating around...
Trick wrote:wasnt the BBC in east asia to shoot varous famous ma's masters, so they stayed several months in east asia ?
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