Bao wrote:All of the modern large frame formats, including Chan Fake's, were created to simplify the forms, get rid of details in order to teach large groups and mostly as a health exercise.
SOME modern large frame formats were created for the purpose you state. I know of no evidence that suggests that CFK simplified the forms or taught large groups, or mostly as a health exercise. Is there ANY substantiating evidence that you can point to that supports that assertion regarding CFK?
Many who claims to have studied with YCF, WJQ and CFK and later taught themselves were never close students. They only learned the simplified versions and now these simplified variants are taught as standard. None of these statements need any proofs. Read, learn and do your homework.
Sure, there are lots of examples of students who studied superficially with well-known teachers then made stuff up to fill in the gaps of what they didn't get. However, there are also examples - fewer in number, as one would expect - of students who developed significant skill and understanding.
...I don't see it in most of modern TJQ. Regardless style.
I don't either, but that doesn't prove - or even substantiate - an opinion that NO ONE got it/has it.
I don't have evidence of anything. I present my ideas from my own experience, not opinions only. If people believe that there's something to those ideas or not, I don't care much about. If someone thinks it's interesting, fine with me. I am not writing to make anyone believe anything. I am just honest about what I believe and I do my best to explain my reasons to go against what most other people believe. To make my point clear sitting behind a computer screen writing is not enough. If you are not interested in anything, fine with me. You don't need to reply or write anything in response.
Well, I don't have any evidence of it, but from my experience, because she was a real bad ass, my great grandmother created Taijiquan. I'm pretty sure that CFK and YLC and others learned what they knew from her. Sure, that is contrary to what most people believe, but that's been my experience and is my opinion. I don't care if other people don't believe that.
My point is that people can make whatever wild claims they want and can believe whatever outrages, unsubstantiated, unsupported things they want to. (That happens everyday in all sorts of circumstances.) They also have, for the most part, the right to express those. (That also happens everyday in all sorts of circumstances.) However, if the claims strain credibility - as mine, above, do, or should - those making the claims shouldn't be too surprised that they are met with dismissal or just outright ignored.