Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

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Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:09 am

Does anyone know this set by Bian ZhiZhong? I found a book of it and the internet is rather scarce with information. I would like to hear some peoples experience with it and also like to know if anyone has any videos of it being performed or knows who has some public.
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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:19 pm

https://www.scribd.com/document/36833087/Bian-ZhiZhong-Daoist-Exercises-for-Virility-and-Longevity-64pp

If anyone has scribd you can read the book here. Maybe you know a different name for it?

I have been trying it the last few days and I have to say it is an interesting set of movements. Going to keep at it awhile and see what the results are.
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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby Franklin on Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:34 pm

these exercises became popular in the Chinese Medical circles in China
after they were released to the public - when the guy who received them decided to share
i forget what year that was-- maybe it says it in the intro to the book- if i remember

they are supposed to come from a Hua Shan tradition
and i think what he released was just a portion of the tradition...

even i learned some of the exercises in TCM school (in the US)...


here is an old video that shows some of the exercises - and a bit of testimonials about people who had good results

if i remember the exercises in the vidoe cover almost everything in the book-
but maybe one or two exercises do not overlap- book vs video

i think there are a few instructionals in english floating around too (video)
but not many

thats all i really know about the set

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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:03 am

Thanks, that was pretty much exactly what I was looking for. I knew someone here had to have seen these before.

I don't speak Chinese, is the guy in the video Bian ZhiZhong? There are a few movements not shown but this gives me a much better idea of how to do these. The only other video I found was of someone doing them like tai chi but that didn't seem right.
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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby Franklin on Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:26 pm

i don't remember who is in it, i would have to go back and rewatch it... sorry


this guy also has an instructional video out on the set
also - it doesn't match 100% with the content of the book



he is in maryland
no way to order online
but if you call or email - you will probably talk to his wife Peggy
who is very nice
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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby wayne hansen on Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:23 am

Forget it's Taoist origins this is a pretty basic warmup that won't add much to tai chi training
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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:51 am

wayne hansen wrote:Forget it's Taoist origins this is a pretty basic warmup that won't add much to tai chi training


It actually says specifically in its book that this is a health exercise and will not help a martial artist with their martial art. It makes you wonder how many teachers had health sets they did as warm ups and stuff before tai chi training and their students misunderstood and thought they were for martial art training.
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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby wayne hansen on Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:12 pm

Everything I trained is applicable
I had a Dutch student who had trained with all the well known CMC people
He said to me
Everything you do relates to every thing else exercises,form ,pushing,fighting,weapons
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Well how do you think it is meant to be
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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby Franklin on Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:22 pm

the OP was asking about a particular qigong set

the qigong set originates (supposedly) from the Taoists at Hua Shan
it doesn't have anything to do with Taijiquan
why should it have anything to do with Taijiquan

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Re: Daoist Exercises for Virility and Longevity

Postby yeniseri on Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:01 am

I learned them about 25 years ago from one of my teachers as it was part of his training when he was studying acupuncture in Chengdu back in the 1950's, I believe ???
I do not believe in the Daoist narrative but it is a folk tradition wrapped in yangsheng reformatting. Personally, any group of exercises done within the same frequency and duration (gong), does offere personal benefit

I know I have the book somewhere and it is a great resource in how the exercises are catalogued!
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