marvin8 wrote:Quigga wrote:You are right Marvin. I have presented weak arguments as to why IMA is not seen in MMA. Anecdotes are not enough. Will come back later.
According to the OP article, IMA
is seen in MMA.
The OP article and Ramsey (who differ on the definition of sanda) say modern training is superior to TCMA and TCMAist should evolve their training. Whoever disagrees, what training, attributes, etc do you feel are superior to modern training and highest ranked sport fighters?
I've based my opinion on users here on what they post, how they evolve, parts of their biography they shared... I've been here for almost ten years , since I was sixteen. I noticed how Marteen and Windwalker established themselves with their first posts, how they struggled to share their truth... Many people here have inspired and shaped me. The archives here are a gem. I've spent many nights until 2 or 3am reading here and made many mistakes. So, thank you all for guiding me in a way. I hope I don't have to make so many mistakes anymore.
I know little about Marvin.
You asked something, I overlooked it.
What training and attributes are superior, very nice specific question.
Training and attributes go hand in hand, there is little sense disconnecting the two...
You let the attributes train you. Connecting to chosen attributes in an energetic and mental-spiritual way. Very important to always retain the ability to control. So no always remaining ego denial as much I wanted that. Instead dying and rebirth.
Anyway.
Energies and spiritual realms correspond to certain tissues in the body. Tune in and the tissue gets work. Control the tune and you control the outcome.
Doing this becomes much easier when you work the body directly and more practically beforehand.
Learning to use different states of body instead of just technique. Techniques feed off the body state. Different conditioning programs result in different outcomes.
Feeling the other person is faster than hearing is faster than seeing. Feeling doesn't need body contact, as anyone would agree I think. Then, acting via feeling and letting it connect with strength. Very intimate process.
Lowering the stress response to fighting. Culitvating calm, cold, malicious intent. Using this intent.
More power, speed and elasticity, more freedom in movement both offensive and defensive.
Not fighting at all, just acting in a focus directed manner to explicitly hurt the other person, as if it were completely normal.
I was a very violent child. When I progressed through my Liver Qi Stagnation later on, my view of fighting and possible moves and perceived opportunities changed. It would have been so easy to smash a lady's head into the wall as I walked next to her. So easy to pull down a cashier by her hair and slam her head downwards as she worked.
When I think of Bagua, I always picture the easiest move to be to step behind the person while using my elbow crease to catch their throat. We would both be looking in the same direction. Then just yank backwards and downwards, opening their front neck upwards and forwards. Making their noise touch their ass while holding on. Very quick.
When you limit this intent, you limit your opportunities. Training to kill is not the same as training to fight rounds.
Most IMA demoes in public circulation don't involve high pressure enemies, so many things won't look as pretty as they could when it comes down.
Then again, it all depends on how far you take the energetic level as an effective transmitter between killing intent and instrument.
Oh, and all the emotional release and resilience you get and need so you don't become insane.
Are you looking for more specific drills and training instructions to develop abilities?
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