.Q. wrote:marvin8 wrote:.Q. wrote:That's just what I said though. Unless you need the best of the best, you're fine with what's available in the states (I'm sure there are a rare few that will match highest level in China). Most people aren't going to train that hard regardless if they're in China or not. Even if you THINK you are, prove it to yourself first by seeing how far you can get in the states before throwing away everything to move to some country with vastly different customs.
Oh, I also suspect the average person that went to China to study will not fare as well sparring as these guys.
Best of the best in just sparring/fighting? Or CMA in particular? Ramsey's opinion was, one should learn how to fight in a top U.S. MMA gym, then incorporate TCMA techniques.
I meant best of the best in CMA. So pretty much in line w/ what Ramsey said. It's not that you can't learn sparring/fighting directly via CMA if you're in the right school, it's that:
1) Your chance of finding that right school and have everything (life matters too) aligned to be able to train at the proper level is very, very low. Provided you don't already have great connections.
Right, Ramsey is talking about the "typical" TMA school that does not teach "pragmatically how to win fights." However, he said he met an old tai chi master who could "fight, primarily grapple: hip throws, sweeps, leg grabs, arm drags, wrist locks, shoulder locks, throws, takedowns, slipping punches, movement—simple, nothing fancy or mystical stuff."
.Q. wrote:2) You yourself might not be the type to work that hard. I'm sure a lot of people overestimate how much they're willing to commit to this.
It's assumed that the TCMA guys that lost to Xu Xiaodong committed a lot of hard work in their TCMA. So, it's finding and committing to the correct path to one's goal.