Dynamic Punch

[klonk]

You can have

- 1 step 1 punch.
- 1 step 2 punches.
- 1 step 3 punches.

You can also have many steps 1 punch. Your opponent is moving back. You move in to cover the distance. When you do that, you are using dynamic punch.

Here is an example of the "dynamic punch". I like this kind of mobility training.

Your thought?

This kind of thing is of great value in teaching you to momentarily settle, take root, and punch from the ground. If you can do that on the move, you really have skill.

If you only run about and thrust with your arm, not so good. It may be said that the momentum of the run forward is enough power to punch with. It is the timing and delivery that make me disagree with that idea. Charging forward and thrusting works with a spear because a spear has a blade on it.

[Trick]

And the reason why the pulling hand goes down(to hip area) is for the enhancement of ones spirit to always stand tall(er)
This pulling hand method trains the practitioner to out-time an opponent as for example nailing him in the mid of his forward charge

Well trained and ingrained one will radiate strong confidence and no hooligan would dare to lay a hand on you......

Against a bad fighter, an unsuspecting target or someone who is drunk ... maybe.

But against a good fighter - I'd rather have my hand in place to have a chance of stopping me getting punched in the face.

You seem to misunderstand here, you can’t really have beleived I advocate pulling the fist to the hip to reload a strike while in an actual encounter ?.... The practice I describe is while solo practice, to developed the right sense of awareness that’s necessary when then interacting with actual forces...

[dspyrido]

You seem to misunderstand here, you can’t really have beleived I advocate pulling the fist to the hip to reload a strike while in an actual encounter ?.... The practice I describe is while solo practice, to developed the right sense of awareness that’s necessary when then interacting with actual forces...

Yes I did misunderstand.

I guess we are saying - pull the hand back to simulate an arm pull. I just find it kind of strange that this galloping form does it. Once the arm is pulled is the opponent somehow running away? If so then why leave the arm there and do the hopping lunging fist?

[johnwang]

why leave the arm there and do the hopping lunging fist?

Act as a rhino guard.

- A uses right punch. B steps back.
- A uses left rhino guard, hops in and close the distance.
- A then throws right punch.

It's no difference from a jab, cross, jab combo.

One of my favor training is:

- A holds a kicking shield.
- B steps in right leg and punch right fist on the shield.
- A uses backward jump to retreat.
- B uses left leg skip with left rhino guard to chase A.
- B then lands right punch on the shield with right leg forward.

[johnwang]

We can modify this combo as:

- Step in with right punch.
- Step in with left punch.
- Skip in with left punch again.
- Step in with right punch.

This way, all 4 punches can be coordinate with the 4 leading foot landing.

Your thought?

[marvin8]

Act as a rhino guard.

- A uses right punch. B steps back.
- A uses left rhino guard, hops in and close the distance.
- A then throws right punch. ...

We can modify this combo as:

- Step in with right punch.
- Step in with left punch.

A uses right punch. B (orthodox stance) steps back loading rear kua/foot. As A chambers right hand to waist, steps forward and skips, B steps slightly to left with lead foot, changes directions by transferring weight to front foot and lands a straight right using A's forward momentum to KO A.

It's no difference from a jab, cross, jab combo.

A typical boxing/MMA shift punch combo is different: throw rear hand while stepping/switching stances. Punching hand becomes lead hand which stays extended to control or returns to guard position for defense, instead of chambering to waist. More power and control.

A similar example:

[johnwang]

In battle field, it doesn't matter your opponent wants to fight or not. You still want to kill him.

In society, that is murder with the possibility of life in prison or death penalty.

I'm talking about in battle field.

[marvin8]

In battle field, it doesn't matter your opponent wants to fight or not. You still want to kill him.

In society, that is murder with the possibility of life in prison or death penalty.

I'm talking about in battle field.

https://i.postimg.cc/cL8QSYHN/yuan-yang-zhen-1.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/sX08v8kL/yuan-yang-zhen-2.gif

I don't really get the point of it. When would you use this?

If my enemy moved that far back, it would be clear he doesn't even want to fight...

However, the question was in general. Battle field strategy and techniques (e.g., come forward and jab) may not be practical for civilian self-defense. It's hard to prove that someone "moving back" is trying to cause you imminent death or great bodily harm. In your gif, the opponents are not retreating.

[Trick]

. It's hard to prove that someone "moving back" is trying to cause you imminent death or great bodily harm.

if them who are suddenly moving back was the one(s) initiated the”trying to cause you bodily harm” can prove they where not just trying to regroup ? ..don’t give them an inch ..

[marvin8]

. It's hard to prove that someone "moving back" is trying to cause you imminent death or great bodily harm.

if them who are suddenly moving back was the one(s) initiated the”trying to cause you bodily harm” can prove they where not just trying to regroup ? ..don’t give them an inch ..

Where "your opponent doesn't want to fight," you can "not give them an inch" and kill them. However again, that is murder with the possibility of life in prison or death penalty.

In battle field, it doesn't matter your opponent wants to fight or not. You still want to kill him.

[.Q.]

In battle field, it doesn't matter your opponent wants to fight or not. You still want to kill him.

In society, that is murder with the possibility of life in prison or death penalty.

I'm talking about in battle field.

I thought the YuanYang formation involved shield wielders too?
Don't understand why you would use the crappy firearm at that range when clearly you can't miss w/ arrows, which reloads faster than that particular implement.
I like the claymation though. Very clear and to the point.

[C.J.W.]

Here's my two cents' worth:

Many people look down on LF and say its only good for show because the punches and kicks are too exaggerated and extended to be effective. Nothing can be further from the truth.

In application, Long Fist is actually more grappling-based than striking-based. That's why withdrawing one hand to the waist -- while the other hand moves forward -- makes sense; it can be used to push and pull the opponent at the same time to set up throws and take-downs. (Ever noticed how the long postures and movements of LF are very similar to the solo forms of Shuaijiao? This is why.)

As for moving forward while punching, IMO there are mainly two different ways to time the punch: you can either make contact with the target as the foot lands OR make contact while one foot is still in the air. The former relies more on ground connection and structure for power, while the latter has more to do with forward momentum and acceleration.

[johnwang]

I thought the YuanYang formation involved shield wielders too?

It has.

[klonk]

If you can make strong contact out of a charging punch, very well, but there is still this problem, your momentum makes you vulnerable to an adversary's counter. Getting hit as you advance is "using the opponent's force against him," in Asian parlance. If someone does that to you, you made a mistake. You will know it at once.

In other words, you leave yourself no room of error if you charge in with a punch. If he deflects you and counters, you just got hit with the force you were bringing to him, plus any tip he cares to pay for your effort.

[.Q.]

I thought the YuanYang formation involved shield wielders too?

It has.

Ah, ok. Thanks. Always thought the Christmas tree spear guy goes 1st though.