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Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 1:59 pm
by suckinlhbf
Move shoulders forward.
- Your back is bending like a curve


When train with this, they hurt themselves before they can KO others.

头正而起,肩平而顺,胸出而闭。

I like the lady's posture. Her chest is out.

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:38 pm
by wayne hansen
Anyone who interperates this as the back should be bent should never again speak on tai chi

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:11 pm
by Trick
johnwang wrote:-
Is this kind of posture healthy? Your thought?


The expert says no - https://cn.bing.com/images/search?view= ... RPRST&vt=1

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:20 pm
by Trick
wayne hansen wrote:Anyone who interperates this as the back should be bent should never again speak on tai chi

Back when I was an Taiji beginner, my Karate teacher gave me a vhs tape feutering Erle Montague, in it he spoke about the c-back among important bodily Taiji characteristics

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:47 pm
by everything
If we have an extremely limited scope definition for “health”, hunch back is not good.

But that’s not what this is about.

It’s the “bad qigong” Bao mentioned.

Arguably that’s good for health.

And it’s not about such superficial “posture”.

But we all know the Taiji is terrible troll posts,

This thread will only lead to your “no leg cut” “proof”/confirmation bias.

Good luck with your anti Taiji trolling

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:59 pm
by Trick
The back/spine bendings/moves should not be done consciously, that would be as bad as consciously trying to sink the Qi , it would not be correct TJQ practice, it would not be TJQ or Qigong practice for that matter at all...maybe yoga or gymnastics or even bodybuilding posing but definitely not TJQ practice.....

no trolling here

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:32 am
by wayne hansen
Hope you left your teacher after he gave you that tape

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:50 pm
by Trick
wayne hansen wrote:Hope you left your teacher after he gave you that tape

I had already found a good Taiji teacher back then, I just liked to collect video tapes and books on the subject.
My teacher taught the ZMQ form which he had good knowledge about.

My Karate teacher who hails from Malaysia has been going back to visit yearly ever since he moved to Sweden in the late 1970’s, on those occasions in Malaysia he practice with teachers of the ZMQ tradition, however back in Sweden he teach the Earl Montague system , his affiliation with that group is stronger through a couple of his fellow karate colleagues in Europe are in it too.

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:13 am
by Drake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36asNbGZCpw

This is what it is, and this is what it's for. You want to get in his way? :)

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:31 am
by Bao
Drake wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36asNbGZCpw

This is what it is, and this is what it's for. You want to get in his way? :)


Not convinced. It looked pretty weak compared to many other XY "masters". He uses the fists much too independent from the rest of the body.

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:55 pm
by Drake
Bao wrote:
Drake wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36asNbGZCpw

This is what it is, and this is what it's for. You want to get in his way? :)


Not convinced. It looked pretty weak compared to many other XY "masters". He uses the fists much too independent from the rest of the body.[/quote You're a moron..... LMFAO!!!!!!

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:09 pm
by Bao
Drake wrote:
Bao wrote:
Drake wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36asNbGZCpw

This is what it is, and this is what it's for. You want to get in his way? :)


Not convinced. It looked pretty weak compared to many other XY "masters". He uses the fists much too independent from the rest of the body.[/quote You're a moron..... LMFAO!!!!!!


Oh, you don't know what good XY looks like? -shrug- You don't need to feel embarrassed.

Re: Taiji 含胸拔背 - Hollow chest and bend back

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:36 pm
by Trick
Drake wrote:
This is what it is, and this is what it's for. You want to get in his way? :)

The superior way is to not get in the way, to get opponent to loose his way......that’s what it is...
I’ll guess that’s what the recent Bagua threads want to tell, not saying Baguazhang is superior. The same concept is evident in all martial arts....