Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

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Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby kakabapana on Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:00 pm

Heya folks,

Has anybody trained the Crab animal in Yin Baguazhang? Does it have eight methods within it like other animals? There ain't much literature out there.

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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby GrahamB on Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:25 pm

Have you been watching Thunderforce?

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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Trick on Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:56 am

The Karate katas(forms) Naihanchi/Tekki has predominant side to side stepping that by the legendary Okinawan Karate master Itosu was dubbed ‘Crab stepping’.....However Itosu’s famous student Funakoshi renamed the Naihanshi to Tekki wich translate into Iron Horse...How that fit with crabs I’m not sure....Maybe the Yin BGZ crab method do some similar side to side stepping, a little as in TJ Q cloud hand form ?
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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby zrm on Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:35 am

I'd never heard of the crab palm, but apparently its how the Ma Gui school refers to "mountain pushing palm" from the old eight.

"Mountain Pushing Palm (推山掌) Tui Shan Zhang. This palm is also called the Double Bumping Palm (双手撞掌) Shuang Shou Zhuang Zhang. Many Liang style practitioners call this posture the Moon Embracing Palm (抱月掌)Bao Yue Zhang. The Mountain Pushing Palm is sometimes described as: “the strength to push eight horses.” In Yin Style Ba Gua this posture is associated with the Rooster and in Ma Gui Ba Gua with the Crab."

http://www.maguibagua.ca/fundamental_sk ... ls/6_crab/
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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby zrm on Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:38 am

That said I always thought this ninja was dope.

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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Bao on Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:59 am

zrm wrote:That said I always thought this ninja was dope.



Love that movie! ;D

So, "Crab Style" is actually Japanese and while it isn't "Ninja", it comes from Karate. :o
Had no idea, thought it was just something they made up for the movie. If I ever take up Karate, it will surely be Crab Karate! ;D

However, the best scenes in that movie are those where he try to teach his violent wife to be more "lady like" ;D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXhGxaCJs3s
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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Trick on Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:33 am

So, "Crab Style" is actually Japanese and while it isn't "Ninja", it comes from Karate.
wouldnt be suprised a french connection will emerge
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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Michael Babin on Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:21 am

Re: "wouldn't be surprised if a French connection will emerge".

Little known historical fact... during the siege of Paris by the vikings in the 9th Century [CE] a young French knight [a Breton, I believe] witnessed an elderly sargeant-at-arms in a watch tower burn his hand on a skillet in which the old fella was cooking a brace of crabs. The horrible contortions and screams of the old veteran scared some of the barbarians lurking below the ramparts and they ran back to their ships.

Feeling inspired by the cursing and shouting of "Crustacés maudits" the young knight ran off to get a scribe to take notes on what he had seen so he missed seeing the old veteran take an arrow in the throat as he capered about in an exposed fashion. Later generations of the young knight's squires passed on this secret knowledge of a crab war dance that later Jesuits took to China in the 17th Century [CE] where Chinese kung fu masters learned it and passed it off as Chinese.

Or something...

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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Doc Stier on Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:37 am

Damn! I love Wild History. ;D
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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Tom on Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:52 am

Michael Babin wrote:Re: "wouldn't be surprised if a French connection will emerge".

Little known historical fact... . . .


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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby wayne hansen on Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:06 pm

Lung Gao boxing from Chen tin hung wrongly named by the guy who stole it from a film is lobster boxing
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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Trick on Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:22 am

. Little known historical fact... during the siege of Paris by the vikings in the 9th Century [CE] a young French knight [a Breton, I believe] witnessed an elderly sargeant-at-arms in a watch tower burn his hand on a skillet in which the old fella was cooking a brace of crabs. The horrible contortions and screams of the old veteran scared some of the barbarians lurking below the ramparts and they ran back to their ships.
just a couple of days ago in Swedish news it read an invasive Crab that should not live in those northern seas had been found....
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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Trick on Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:45 am

there is a new thread here... Were Lobster Taiji is mentioned, fascinating
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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby Michael Babin on Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:31 am

Re: Lobster Taiji

In a "pinch" one can substitute lobster for crab techniques; in fact, it's considered shellfish [sic] not to do so!

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Re: Crab Animal : Yin Style Baguazhang

Postby GrahamB on Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:46 am

Michael Babin wrote:Re: Lobster Taiji

In a "pinch" one can substitute lobster for crab techniques; in fact, it's considered shellfish [sic] not to do so!

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