Krav Maga vs. CMA

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Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby johnwang on Wed May 26, 2021 2:30 pm

There are so much similarity between Krav Maga and CMA such as:

- Wheeling step - move out of your opponent's attacking path.
- Face cover, chin push, forehead wiping.
- Downward parry - open your opponent's guard and punch back.
- Deflect and punch.
- Arm guiding.
- Leading arm jam back arm.
- Enter through the side door.
- ...

It's almost the same as the way I teach my CMA class. It further proves that the combat art should not have any style boundary.

Your thought?

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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby yeniseri on Wed May 26, 2021 7:56 pm

Moshe Feldenkrais (bodywork practitioner) was judo proficeint and many Israelis studied Japanese martial system (amongst others) those who maade them part of the defense establishment so they choose methods over style or form and integrated it into the fabric of their safety/security apparatus. Although I was more exposed to the Keysi Method, Krav Maga was also part of my dignitary protection learning methodology.

Krav Maga and CMA taught right mirror each other. Nothing fancy or lineage. Eithor you are good or you just stink (regarding application and utility of the art)
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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby johnwang on Wed May 26, 2021 8:08 pm

yeniseri wrote:they choose methods over style ...

I like the way that you have described, "choose methods over style".

It's amazing that Krav Maga also uses CMA principle "摀(Wu) – Face covering".

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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby dspyrido on Thu May 27, 2021 11:24 pm

In the Krav video where are the kicks & knees? At least you use the sweeps.

While we are at it - when it comes to self-defense (or offense) then let's go 7 stars all the way.

As for style boundaries - yes who cares. I know I don't.
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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby AJG on Thu May 27, 2021 11:32 pm

Are the army pants really necessary for civilians ?
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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby wiesiek on Fri May 28, 2021 4:36 am

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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby phil b on Fri May 28, 2021 4:39 am

Odd how he demonstrates a pivot at around 42 seconds, but uses a different step when his partner attacks. He later demonstrates the same pivot again calling it the body defence.

This pivot is basic to many arts, but he can't use it against a moving opponent... doesn't say much about Krav Maga
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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby Doc Stier on Fri May 28, 2021 9:30 am

I am disinclined to judge the combative merits and efficiency of any martial art style or system by the performance of one practitioner on a single video. How absurd! ::)
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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby Quigga on Fri May 28, 2021 10:32 am

Drilling pre-established routines to prepare a response for aggression helps to maintain coolness in the face of someone projecting their harmful intention of hurting or killing you. It fails to allow artistic expression.

Dealing with this intention on the fly, in real time would be like a craftsman having a sudden muse, creating his own tools on the spot to work on manifesting his idea/mind into reality.
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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby johnwang on Fri May 28, 2021 11:50 am

AJG wrote:Are the army pants really necessary for civilians ?

CMA uses it too.

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Re: Krav Maga vs. CMA

Postby Bob on Mon May 31, 2021 9:38 am

Small sample of the immense tool box of praying mantis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPe4drgVNCk&t=100s

Master Class: Iron Palm & Throwing Insights




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91vxgmpY5kQ

This simple drill teaches the important striking and defensive strategies of Praying Mantis Kung Fu. My partner for the drill is my disciple, Shifu John Spolarich.

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