wayne hansen wrote:I am of the CMC lineage and we do it
You won't run out of space because it is balanced with follow steps going in the opposite direction
TT Liang had a lot of other teachers beside CMC
Rhen wrote:Both Sun style and older Yang styles do this as mentioned in grahams podcast. One of my teachers explained in the Yang chengfu style the delivery of power in larger stances needs a pivot on the heel ( not ball of foot) for this.
In higher stances like Sun taijiquan the power needs to be delivered with a follow-up step similar to a western boxer who pivots on ball of foot (not heel).
yeniseri wrote:According to my recollection of what one of my teachers stated, 1/2 step used to be part of Yang style but with 'orthodox teaching and segmentation of style variations" it was somehow omitted (no reason was given ) and the bow and arrow stance (movement!) became a standard. The 1/2 step was maintained in 2 man pre-arranged 'forms' in the one I was taught but rarely practiced over the ages.
Sun style made it part of training due to the paquazhang/quan conditioning element and therefore it became a signature for Sun style dynamics/mechanics.
Rhen wrote:Many of the fast forms have the stepping.
36 seconds in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouj8116dp6Q&t=109s
15 seconds in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsg5opsY1zg
44 seconds in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiegLb3xEfw&t=6s
yeniseri wrote:According to my recollection of what one of my teachers stated, 1/2 step used to be part of Yang style but with 'orthodox teaching and segmentation of style variations" it was somehow omitted...and the bow and arrow stance (movement!) became a standard. The 1/2 step was maintained in 2 man pre-arranged 'forms' in the one I was taught but rarely practiced over the ages.
These training methods are not very easy to find nowadays, but are definitely still present in some older lineages, which chose not to accept the newer Yang Cheng-Fu Modified Large Frame 85 Forms style as their standard. Those who practice only the YCF style, or any of its derivatives, would have to seek a competent teacher of the older curriculum to access that material, or attempt reverse engineering of what they already have. Most are apparently doing the latter.
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