oragami_itto wrote:Quigga wrote:You let them knock on the door in your mind-spirit, see how they behave, then either invite them for tea or throw them out according to their behaviour.
IMO it makes no sense to talk about IMA without meditation, prayer, intent, qi, mind-spirit-soul, jing, stuff that's bigger and beyond the mere physical body. If you reduce it to the physical you'll never get it. That's wishful thinking. Again, IMO; everyone prefers their brew differently.
I'd love to hear more about what you have to say about that. Particularly shen->xin->yi->qi->jin
Sure.
Shen is the divine aspect of a human. Some call it the 'big' you vs. the 'small' you that is your energetic heart centre (or middle dantien) where your sense of ego / your sense of identification resides in. Some call shen the admiral vs. xin the captain of a ship. One of my teachers likes to call shen (in computer terms) the operator of a PC, xin would be the software and jing + phsysical body the hardware. There are lots of ways to describe and everybody will bring some degeree of personal bias into it. Shen is your connection to God, it's the gateway or door in the sky that needs to be crossed to experience creation as it is. If you believe in an aspect that allows a being to control creative forces, this is it. It's not the direct control mechanism per sé, but it's that which allows it to function in the first place. Shen also automatically comes with responsibility to use it skillfully and in a wise manner. In general, the more access a practictioner has to the creative force, the more and quicker will he/she experience karma / dynamic rebalancing of reality's fabric.
It requires a sober and stable, balanced heart-mind (middle center - ego) to use. The goal is to - after extensive cleansing of beliefs and impressions, unlearning a LOT of no more useful stuff - merge the 'big' you and the 'small' you. One could call it 'Combining Heaven and Earth', but people connect various ideas to this nomenclature. In Christianity this would be (roughly translated from German): 'Thy empire/kingdom/REALM shall come, thy Will (-power, -force) shall manifest; as in Heaven, so on Earth.'
However, the Shen (soul-spirit; 'mind' has too many confusing connotations. The lucid-cognitive-conscious thinking process is actually the communication between Shen and Xin)...
However, the Shen can't operate on it's own. It's like a GPS navigation system - it gives information about direction, possible hazards, location info - but it can't be effective in terms of changing the world alone. If information is there but nobdy acts on it, does it really exist? Lol. If a tree falls down in a forest and no one's around to witness, does it actually happen?
What complicates matters more is that Shen resides in a slice of fabric that is both lacking time and space parameters of experience. In practical terms, it takes time to get used to a new quality of living life. Also, Shen couldn't function the way it does if it weren't so! To get universal information or insight, you need to transcend the universe, meaning letting go of time and space.
Be careful though - accepting the death of yourself, your loved one's, friends, animals, flora, the universe itself is a major undertaking and can rob you of all passion or desire to continue living. Yet it's 100% neccessary to banish all those attachments or else you will be steered in a wrong, potentially very dangerous for people all around you direction by clinging on to stuff. Change is the only constant, eh. But letting go of language too without going batshit bonkers is difficult, too! Ah, how exciting!
Anyway, Shen needs other stuff to function, ok. All of creation is connected to each other. God is looking into a mirror. Signs of entering and stablizing yourself in this mode of being are: feeling how the Ba Hui points is pierced and connected to Heaven, being easily aware of the energy cente above your head, experiencing various qualities of infinity and eternity, among others.
Now some may so: OH, the enlightening process is done! BULLSHIT! How can it be done if there are still beings suffering who are not enlightened themselves?
Shen is connected to a human via the upper dantian. You need to allow it to shine all around you constantly in a non-dual light way. Meaning it has no informative qualities except light that may be overwhelming or uncomfortable for some, and leading to the inspiration of other's on their own personal spiritual journey. Brotherhood of light, wink wink. You also HAVE to share this light with others, else you will get massive consequences for being an egoisitc hoarder.
I'll continue with the writing process after I care for myself a bit. Essentially, it 'shen -> xin -> yi -> qi -> jin' is a top-to-bottom way of achieving enlightenment for oneself. The discussion of pros / cons of top-bottom or bottom-top will have to wait. But extensive amounts of physical training are required either way and serve as a function to make the process safe-ish and also to allow the channelled information to vitally express themselves. See ya