windwalker wrote:oragami_itto wrote:Issuing energy, sure, pushing with the foot is appropriate. Moving back and forth in gong Bu, though,
is better training to use yi not force there, IMHO.
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If you're referring to the image from the wei shur ren''s book, there is no pushing involved in weight transference.
I was not referring to that image. I was just saying, in general, the methods I'm familiar with for issuing energy involve pressing with the feet. That's in contrast to this description of shifting weight in gong bu where the legs and feet are passive.
The central idea used is one of a bell with the clapper donating where the center is moved to...
I'm not the biggest fan of that analogy. Is that implying the dantien is a pendulum hanging from the neck?
When you speak of using "yi" intent how do "you" distinguish it from using force ?
That's a bit tricky, isn't it? I don't believe you can move the human body without involving muscular contraction and/or relaxation. I'd be happy to learn differently if it can be demonstrated and measured.
The quality I'm talking about is in moving the body without the muscles perceptibly engaging. Muscles are involved, see above, but I guess deeper muscles. You don't feel or see them engaging. You become more "transparent" to force. There's a kind of knack to moving with it. Very rewarding. It's similar in sensation to the Kohnstamm phenomenon.