windwalker wrote:You can “ scream” or “equate “
All you want.
None of it is based on the word or concept from which its cultural understanding comes or is used.
If one was really interested they always could contact the studies authors or
make observations, propose a hypothesis, design and perform an experiment to test the hypothesis, analyze the data to see if it supports the hypothesis and, if necessary, propose and test a new hypothesis based on these findings.
Which is what Dr Yin Lo, did
Acupuncture Today – November, 2008, Vol. 09, Issue 11
Evidence of Instant Effect of External Qi
BY YIN LO, PHD
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Yes, that's the garbage study I mentioned earlier.
Quigga wrote:Qi is what assembles physical matter into living beings. It brings information from Shen and Dao into reality. It can't be measured directly via any measurement device. Some effects of it could. It's not in the level of psychic powers. Those are Shen based.
What's the origin of Qi? We're all in a sea of it.
Directing Qi would mean increasing the flow of intelligent, organizing life force to various tissues. Like bones, fascia etc
Qi is only weird if you see yourself separate from it and the world around it. You can drop into Qi, meaning adjusting your structure, Sung.
Tummo practitioners drying towels on their back.
It's a static, yet it's dynamic. Qi is not on the pure information level, it's much more feeling based. On what you can identify with...
So that's where it starts to get less precise. Sure, it's a model you can grasp and understand and maybe even interact with it, but it's getting into the realm of superstition. Somebody can make part of their body hotter. That's interesting phenomena. They say it's their qi, okay, but what is it really? Just because they can do it doesn't mean they understand the mechanism by which it occurs. You may be able to bring a woman to orgasm, but can you accurately describe the physiological processes involved?
Body heat, in particular, is created by.... ATP oxidation. Fuel created from air and food and consumed according to the direction of the CNS. Nothing magical or mystical about it, just a matter of conditioning. If you want to dry towels on your back, go for it.
Is that heat the same as the animating principle that breathes life into dead matter? Is that where self and mind emerge? You see how this gets messy and useless, quickly? Particularly when we have verifiable processes to describe these things.
Some things will always be a part of the mystery (thing that can only be understood through direct experience) of human existence, the nature of self and consciousness and purpose, sure. Kaballists have the four worlds to describe this emergence from beyond the veils into physical reality.They can be useful models, like the Bohr model, but they can be replaced by more accurate and verifiable conceptions, like the Bohr model, but still kept around for reference and to assist initial understanding that needs to be corrected and refined, like the Bohr model. Scientists describe parts of the process with things like the Higgs Bosun, but they still don't have an understanding of the nature of the underlying organizing intelligence beyond the four fundamental forces, or the motivation for existence. There's plenty of room for dwelling in the unknown, while plenty of room to expand the known.
