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Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:07 am
by AL2016
Hi
Some Say he died because he was an opium addict
Other he was killed by a lord of war ?

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:29 am
by Doc Stier
Master Yang Chengfu died in his early 50's from sudden GI Tract complications following rapid weight gain from excessive eating, with symptoms suggesting a possible ruptured appendix, at a time when modern Western Medicine facilities and treatment methods were rare in most parts of China. :-\

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:32 am
by GrahamB
What is "thé death"? Is it when you drink too much tea and die?

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:26 am
by Bao
Doc Stier wrote:M rapid weight gain from excessive eating,


Actually, it's quite understandable. He was very poor as a child and worked hard. And when he became famous and was invited to big dinners every night... He had never learned how to control his eating and had always had to eat as much as possible to even feel full. Sad, but his condition was probably more a consequence of his childhood than a lack of discipline.

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:41 pm
by johnwang
Taiji master Li Jing-Lin did not allow YCF to teach in public. After YCF left his students, YCF died a year later (not happy?).

One day, Li Jing-Lin and my teacher Chang Dong-Sheng walked in the park that YCF was teaching. Li told Chang, "Look at that YCF is cheating on his students again." Li and YCF didn't get along.

Li Jing-Lin

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Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:19 pm
by yeniseri
Ynag Chengfu was a sick man and he hid his health problems as a way to present taijiquan when few knew what it was!
He allegedly had diabetes (tye 2) and stated to be on IV hookup prior to his death. In those days, admirers of people of 'status' did not divulge such things because of the 'rice bowl' syndrome.

His death was mysterious only because it was hiddern from the public, as it were, "keep them guessing". It still is en vogue today amongst various cultic tai chi organizations as a way to consolodate the troops and present a facade.

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:40 pm
by wayne hansen
In my town old ladies tell stories after your death

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:00 pm
by wiesiek
:),

Sadly, but death 40 -50 y.o., "full time" practitioner isn`t rare thing.
From TCM point of v., their fire was to high. They (mostly)are driven by power, gained from the trainings, harmony is lost and heart breaks. I personally know two such cases : one friend of mine, Choi Lee fut teacher died on heart attack,in age of 50, second- hard style, saved his arse by firing of some heart nerves in hospital and later, lost interest in trainings.

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 1:05 pm
by AL2016
And many masters don't have healthy way of life
eating a lot of meat, smoking ,drinking alcohol .

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:08 pm
by nicklinjm
Doc Stier's diagnosis sounds bang on the mark. Judging by the accounts of the students who were actually around him in the months before his death (Fu Zhongwen, Zeng Rubo, Yang Shouzhong), he had some kind of gastro-intestinal disorder (possibly a hernia, 'shan qi' in Chinese) for much of 1935, and took a folk remedy based on recommendations of a family friend which made it worse.

Other long-term students like Huang Jinghua confirm that he had a habit of over-eating, which was fine when he was training for several hours every day in his 20s, but by the time he was in his 50s was v bad for his health. Would not be surprised if he had Type II diabetes at the end as well.

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:43 pm
by AL2016
Ok thanks

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:50 am
by zhangjunbao
https://hznews.hangzhou.com.cn/shehui/c ... 535897.htm maybe you can find what you want in this article.

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:33 am
by Trick
johnwang wrote:Taiji master Li Jing-Lin did not allow YCF to teach in public. After YCF left his students, YCF died a year later (not happy?).

One day, Li Jing-Lin and my teacher Chang Dong-Sheng walked in the park that YCF was teaching. Li told Chang, "Look at that YCF is cheating on his students again." Li and YCF didn't get along.

Li Jing-Lin

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Wasn’t that the same Li that YCF made to lose hold of his sword rather quickly during a fencing bout ?

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:38 am
by Trick
Trick wrote:
johnwang wrote:Taiji master Li Jing-Lin did not allow YCF to teach in public. After YCF left his students, YCF died a year later (not happy?).

One day, Li Jing-Lin and my teacher Chang Dong-Sheng walked in the park that YCF was teaching. Li told Chang, "Look at that YCF is cheating on his students again." Li and YCF didn't get along.

Li Jing-Lin

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Is that the same Li that YCF made to lose hold of his sword rather quickly during a fencing bout ?

Re: Why thé death of master yang Cheng fu mysterious?

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:58 am
by johnwang
Trick wrote:Wasn’t that the same Li that YCF made to lose hold of his sword rather quickly during a fencing bout ?

Li was a warlord also a sword master.

My teacher told me that he knew 2 secretes in Chinese history.

1. The truth of YCF's death. Li won't allow Yang to teach in public.
2. 汪精卫 Wang Jingwei was a double spy and was not a traitor. The assassin order to Wang was to hurt him and not to kill him. Wang was 1 of the "4 good looking guys" in modern Chinese history.

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