8 brocade qigong and/or 16 xingyi health exercises

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Re: 8 brocade qigong and/or 16 xingyi health exercises

Postby wayne hansen on Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:41 pm

First let me say two things
When done correctly everything is noi gung
Zhang is amazing

Do you have any film of him as a young man
This set of exercises is not what I would call noi gung
More like basic warm ups

Once again thanks for that
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Re: 8 brocade qigong and/or 16 xingyi health exercises

Postby Bob on Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:02 pm

Just drifting through and ran into them - the 16 exercises I do are sometimes close to what I have learned in the baji stuff - and some I learned in the late 1980s from a guy I met at Jou Tsung Hwa's Tai Chi Farm and Bisio's On-line material pulled it together for me - the 16 exercises have been very useful for me in my old(er) age, LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvNK3nktlGA

Wang Ji Wu lineage Xing Yi Quan (Xin Yi Liu He Quan) Master Wang Shu Yi (王树义) belongs to elder disciples of GM Zhang Bao Yang (91 old now) He also studied with Wang ji Wu personally. 王继武所传的形意拳(心意六合拳)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7QKfpHcOi8

Small documentary about Xin Yi Liu He Quan grandmaster Zhang Baoyang. Zhang Baoyang (张宝杨) was top disciple of Wang Jiwu (王继武) 张宝杨八十大寿贺寿



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLhfJ-yOpN8

ootage from 2009 year. Grandmaster Zhang Baoyang(*1922), top disciple of great grandmaster Wang Jiwu (*1891✝1991) in age 87 practice the "Advancing and retreating linked fist"(进退连环拳), Zhang Baoyang is one of last living grandmaster in his generation. Besides the following his master Wang Jiwu, he also learned with his gong-fu uncle "iron luohan" Zhang Xiangzhai (张祥斋) also known as Zhang Changfa( 张长发), who was disciple of Liu Dianchen(刘殿琛), buddhist monk and son of Liu Qilan(刘奇兰). Grandmaster Zhang Baoyang is founder and honorary president of Beijing Xing Yi Quan association and living legend of Chinese martial arts.Lineage: Shaolin(少林寺)-Ji Longfeng(姬龙峰)-Cao Jiwu(曹继武)-Dai Longbang(戴龙邦)-Li Luoneng(李洛能)-Liu Qilan(刘奇兰)-Wang Fuyuan(王福元)-Wang Jiwu(王继武)-Zhang Baoyang(张宝杨). Long live to 师爷。



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqU4IZb-ECw

This is the last speech of our beloved grandmaster Zhang Bao Yang on the master Wang Deli accept new disciples ceremony, just three days before he passed away in age of 95.. One of the last real grandmaster of Xing Yi quan has gone. Dear grandpa, you will always living in our hearts. R.I.P 张宝杨师爷在收徒仪式上的最后讲话. 三天后师爷圆寂了。师爷走好。

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Re: 8 brocade qigong and/or 16 xingyi health exercises

Postby greytowhite on Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:55 pm

If anyone is looking for something truly excellent for Xingyi or Bagua Neigong I can wholeheartedly recommend Alex Kozma's Chinese Internal Fighting Arts Stage 1. It's basically like someone expanded on a lot of the concepts of the Neigong I learned in person. Also, there is a lot in there similar to Yiquan and includes an old school version of Xingyi zhan zhuang that is almost like someone broke down the Seeking Moon at Sea Bottom exercise into 8 pieces.

https://lineofintent.com/product/chines ... e-1-and-2/
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Re: 8 brocade qigong and/or 16 xingyi health exercises

Postby everything on Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:11 am

that sounds awesome. been self studying circle walking neigong from tom bisio's excellent book on bagua neigong passed down from Li Zi Ming.
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