salcanzonieri wrote:
No kidding, Tai Chi evolves to a way of being. You are tai chi. Which comes with mastery.
Mastery over anything, from being a cook, to being an electrician, to being a surgeon,
Every moment in all things exhibits tai chi,
You can see it from catching something effortlessly before it falls out of your hands to not falling down due to terrain conditions.
Been and am at that point.
Arm chair martial artist I am not.
I have used TJ for self defense efficiently and effectively. all over the world and many times. And got challenged by people from different styles at my classes. I won each time.
A number of people who used to be in this group came and paid me a visit and left learning something new or being happy to see the natural CMA being put into effect and vouched for me.
Blah blah blah.
Why is there always a thought police that has to block discourse and understanding of things?
I see how things form patterns and what those patterns do and where there is commonality between patterns.
thought police alert, this isn't about your prowess or skill.
but let me ask you is there really any mystery left regards Yang tai chi and it's evolution from Chen ?
By all means what you found between Chen taiji and Rou quan was something else.
but I notice your search for patterns relating to Post Chen - what left with YLC and in smaller part WYX.
and that was what I replied to.
The way that taiji is practiced is consistent with other methods and different clips from other lines post Chen - so is it just the choreography you want to understand as/through 'patterns' ?
how do you think that helps your practice and development.
If it is about choreography per se, then sure - I do find that a distraction these days - personally. but hey, some people collect stamps.
It's too academic - the main postures of both Chen and Yang are well known.
If I thought it was helpful to getting better I might care a bit more.
sorry if it's a lame thing to say, but, yea, I think patterns in the outer form are not going to offer anything meaningful (intellectually or experientially) and were down to the teachers personal preferences if they where up to creating anything new.
when you're new it's a bit fun and interesting and you need a certain base of knowledge about it perhaps - to understand the outer form development broadly speaking. getting to know some of these differences chen vs. yang, beyond that it does just become academic and not worth further more research other than for its own sake. So yeah, that' MY idea of tedious. But it takes a village, so you do you bro!
tbh had couple extra rums that night and came off ruder than normal I fear.. my bad