Centre the Dragon: Tai Chi Talk w/K Gullette & G Barlow

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Re: Centre the Dragon: Tai Chi Talk w/K Gullette & G Barlow

Postby Doc Stier on Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:36 am

Not that it really matters one way or the other, but I guess any subjective opinion based upon personal assumptions regarding Yang Lu-chan's curriculum is as good as another. -shrug-
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Re: Centre the Dragon: Tai Chi Talk w/K Gullette & G Barlow

Postby yeniseri on Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:18 am

Quanyu was stated to be part of the Manchu bannermen along with a few other not so known individuals of Imperial Yang taijiquan.
Isn't Wu style (Quanyu/jianquan) a functional system on equal footing with other styles of taijiquan.

I would not say that QIng wrestling was imported but it was a necessary part of tribal steppe peoples way of life. Muslims had their own system of shuajiao but QIng predominanace made it part of self defense training along with spear, staff and dao work/conditioning.
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Re: Centre the Dragon: Tai Chi Talk w/K Gullette & G Barlow

Postby GrahamB on Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:59 am

For Shuai Jiao history I would recommend watching Byron Jacobs three part series The Hidden History of Shuai Jiao, which I think is the best researched history of it I've seen:

Part 1:
https://youtu.be/FWaH21x9o4o
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Re: Centre the Dragon: Tai Chi Talk w/K Gullette & G Barlow

Postby origami_itto on Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:56 am

Doc Stier wrote:Not that it really matters one way or the other, but I guess any subjective opinion based upon personal assumptions regarding Yang Lu-chan's curriculum is as good as another. -shrug-


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Re: Centre the Dragon: Tai Chi Talk w/K Gullette & G Barlow

Postby Doc Stier on Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:59 pm

origami_itto wrote:Yang, the Unsurpassable Qigongist!

That's funny! During Yang Lu-chan's era, and even thereafter through the first three decades of my own learning and practice, internal cultivation methods which are now popularly labeled as qigong practices were usually classified as tao-yin or yang-sheng training methods. :P
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