robert wrote:origami_itto wrote:I think it's easiest to see in ward off right (using the movement name to be clear about the form vs the energy), the first part of grasp sparrow's tail.
That seems overly complex if we're discussing the back leg. Push seems simpler. Am I wrong? I suspect there's a reason FZW chose push to discuss the basic idea of jin. If we discuss push.
origami_itto wrote:So from the back we shift (pour?) the weight to the front, ...
Talking about weight shifts there are a couple ways to look at it. One is to sink into the leg we're moving too, and another is to push off the leg were moving from. In reality we want to do both. Sinking into the leg we're moving too is yin and is closing (he), while pushing off the leg we're moving from is yang and is opening (kai). You can emphasize either. To relax and flow I often think of sinking, sinking, sinking. Even though I'm sinking there is still some yang in the yin, I'm aware the other leg is opening.
origami_itto wrote:Also, not the biggest fan of FZW.
I like his description of jin in his book, I like the interviews I've read with him, and his family seems pretty good.
Here's a video of Yang Jun teaching GST, push is 11:30 to 12:08. The body closes (he) as the weight shifts back and opens (kai) as the weight shifts forward.
origami_itto wrote:I'm working with sinking down to center then settling up on the front leg.
In both ward off and push, I believe the weight is shifting to the front leg and the kwa is pushing through the rear leg Same like you say but not pushing with the leg, pushing through the leg and when straight not completely straight.
robert wrote:origami_itto wrote:I'm working with sinking down to center then settling up on the front leg.
In both ward off and push, I believe the weight is shifting to the front leg and the kwa is pushing through the rear leg Same like you say but not pushing with the leg, pushing through the leg and when straight not completely straight.
When you write the kwa is pushing through the rear leg are you saying that you don't bend and extend the legs? You just turn the hips (not the kuas, the kuas rotate the legs) so the pelvic girdle is acting like a cam? If that's the case, what about the arms? In push the arms clearly bend and extend. If you bend and extend the arms, why not the legs?
origami_itto wrote:It's not that they don't extend, it's that they don't straighten. And not really like a cam because there all of the joints are passive. What I mean is that it's not the thigh straightening the knee that makes things move, it's the upper thigh moving in the hip joint pushing back that straightens the leg, but not completely straight.
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