twocircles13 wrote:Later, Feng Zhiqiang was a huge advocate of standing for long periods of time, an hour or two or more. That’s been pretty well discussed. One of the several important practices I got from Feng's training system was learning to clear all the excess tension, energy, and focus that might get stuck in my body.
wayne hansen wrote:You would not call yourself a big perponent of standing
Yet you say you stood for an hour a day with one teacher and up to two with the other
To do two hours in a class means you must be doing that daily or it would not be possible
wiesiek wrote:you should looking for difference in keepin` positions of the form sequence by some period of a time -
versus standing in meditation .They seems to be the same, but they really are?
Appledog wrote:I don't think enough could possibly be written about Feng's ideas and practice, so anything you care to add would be great. In fact I have some DVDs of hunyuan qigong and silk reeling and there's no standing presented in them, it's by Feng's daughter (IIRC) and her husband.
Appledog wrote:In particular I want to perhaps add more time standing to my schedule but I am unsure of whether or not it has benefits beyond 5-10 min per posture. My own teacher tells me that yes standing has some benefits but has mentioned that it is a vagary of the system you are training whether or not the power comes from standing or from moving (it's different). I'm curious as to your thoughts on that and how much time you think it is ok to hold a posture.
If you say 6 hours, I would go for 6 hours. Joking aside, there is a "realistic" amount of practice and a "too much" amount. Is it possible to do too much of a good thing here? What about opportunity cost? Is there a point where you've done enough standing and need to do something else? Thanks for any thoughts.
wiesiek wrote:then, it is clear, that standing meditation is quite different beast than holding the form/s/,
but
considering MA they should be united.
wiesiek wrote:-argh-
twocircles13 wrote:Before I address standing meditation, let me mention Hunyuan Qigong. In most of the “exercises” the hands or the motion are a guide for imagining “qi flow" and making connections. At some point, you want to do each exercise by imagining the actions without moving physically, then progress to doing it internally without imagining the guide, just feel the flow. At that point, I incorporated Hunyuan Qigong into my form practice, and only review it periodically.
I also recommend that if you are going to explore beyond just basic standing that you find a guide or teacher. There are some pitfalls that they should be able to help you avoid.
Each also while related has different requirements, sometimes very different.
Quigga wrote:...
Forcing yourself into meditation is always an error.
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Letting go is the highest art and technique. It's the essence of freedom.
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IMAs are simply Nei Dan's offspring.
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