Starting Push Hands Training

[Appledog]

how can you train 6 harmonies if you don't move your feet?

Easy...just don't move your hands.

That's actually a brilliant insight. Nominated for post of the year

[BruceP]

1. hand and foot coordination -> 2. elbow and knee coordination -> 3. shoulder and hip coordination.

Which hand and which foot? Which elbow and which knee? Which shoulder and which hip?

Opposite or same side? Sometimes the former and sometimes the latter, I heard.

I also heard that it makes a difference, and the distinctions are important because six harmonies aren't really in 'harmony' at all without making those distinctions, at least in the case of NTQ.

Neuroplasticity and imagery..."...and now we spar..."

Almost a rhetorical question: Why haven't the bloggers and notebookers written about these ideas?

[BruceP]

[johnwang]

Opposite or same side? Sometimes the former and sometimes the latter, I heard.

If you coordinate your front foot landing with your

- jab, that's the same side.
- cross, that's the opposite side.

IMO, beginners should start from "hand and foot coordination" first.

[johnwang]

how can you train 6 harmonies if you don't move your feet?

Easy...just don't move your hands.

Assume

- foot coordinate with hand is the grade school training.
- knee coordinate with elbow is the high school training.
- hip coordinate with shoulder is the university training.

You just suggest that one to skip the grade school and go into high school.

[BruceP]

There are more than a few different types of jab, depending on their intended purpose/tactic. The stepping differs according to the type of jab that's being used. Further, each individual will use different mechanics in their jab depending on their body's shape, size, and proportions (reach in relation to their height, long back-short legs, short back-long legs, etc). Same with the cross.

Then there's practical application of the jab which is wholly dependent on what the opponent is doing and how the opponent utilizes their own physical attributes, distancing, range, etc.

Anyway, that's apples to potatoes because there's no jab or cross, per se, in NTQ. Nor is there a hierarchy of learning from elementary to university anything in the practice of NTQ as a means of developing six harmonies. The practice is internal and each individual organizes the various neural elements, their mind-intent, etc, in their own, uniquely personal way.

[BruceP]

Now that I've outlined a basic how-to on 6 harmonies exploration and detailed some of the methods of integrating their dynamics, It's going to be interesting to see how people here who have never so much as hinted at those methods before start to 'fold' the discussion of those ideas into their dialogue. It's already starting...

Some have shown their hand in this thread and the Origins of Silk Reeling thread, so it's gonna be tricky for them.

There are only a handful of RSFers/former RSFers who have ever mentioned similar kinds of work as being a part of their practice.

[origami_itto]

Now that I've outlined a basic how-to on 6 harmonies exploration and detailed some of the methods of integrating their dynamics, It's going to be interesting to see how people here who have never so much as hinted at those methods before start to 'fold' the discussion of those ideas into their dialogue. It's already starting...

Where was that so I know what to plagiarize.

[BruceP]

nope

The bloggers still don't get it

Instead of inquiry and investigation, just write another blog....

[wayne hansen]

I find most blogging to be a circle jerk
I’ll have you on my blog if you have me on yours
We can tell the world how great we both are
No every blog is like that and I have seen some great stuff
However enough are and the enabling goes on

[Bao]

I find most blogging to be a circle jerk
I’ll have you on my blog if you have me on yours

As a blogger, if you try to live in a vacuum you'll get no visitors. You need to make yourself available for both Google and potential visitors. One common way to get attention is guest blogging.

To have any kind of success with a blog takes a lot of time and hard work.

[GrahamB]

I don't allow guest bloggers on my blog. I think the point of a blog is that it's your voice. If people want a different voice they can get it elsewhere.

I'll interview the fuck out of people I find interesting on my podcast though

[charles]

To have any kind of success with a blog takes a lot of time and hard work.

What is the definition of "success" with a blog?

It's a serious question.

[GrahamB]

Now that I've outlined a basic how-to on 6 harmonies exploration and detailed some of the methods of integrating their dynamics, It's going to be interesting to see how people here who have never so much as hinted at those methods before start to 'fold' the discussion of those ideas into their dialogue. It's already starting...

Some have shown their hand in this thread and the Origins of Silk Reeling thread, so it's gonna be tricky for them.

There are only a handful of RSFers/former RSFers who have ever mentioned similar kinds of work as being a part of their practice.

What are you talking about? 6 Harmonies has been a standard practice of internal arts since the beginning.

(Haven't read your piece - where is it? I just jumped on the end of this thread - haven't read it all)

And what makes you think that people care about what you've written enough to copy it? This just sounds a bit like... ego... Honestly, nobody cares that much about nobodies like you, or me, to actually start stealing words from a screen that don't mean anything without being backed up by actually meeting people and exchanging ideas. You're going to need a following like Adam Mizner if you want to attract that sort of crowd...

[GrahamB]

To have any kind of success with a blog takes a lot of time and hard work.

What is the definition of "success" with a blog?

It's a serious question.

One of the best motivational factors for blogging is that you can define what success means to you. For me it's that my posts generate good reactions and comments from people. That's it. For others it might be appearing on the first page of Google search for a particular keyword. (But AI is about to render that irrelevant anyway ) Or perhaps it's to turn it into a money making thing and generate X amount a year through selling products. It's up to the person doing it.