Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

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Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby windwalker on Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:39 am

Sun Haishun "Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong"

Explains the concept's, how and why of internal practices related to
the practice of taiji

English subtitles :)

Might help to explain what's. going on in some of the demos questioned...
Interesting take on "emptiness".
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby everything on Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:58 pm

really interesting
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby Appledog on Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:07 pm

Lookin' good. If I was nearby I might sign up for lessons.
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby nicklinjm on Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:42 pm

IMO I find him overly wordy but there's no question he has some interesting skills. IIRC he studied mainly with one of Wu Tunan's long-time disciples.
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby robert on Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:38 pm

30:11 Second, kuas pull shoulders forward and backward, then turn your hands. It's not only the hands, It is driven by the hips to the shoulders, hands are driven by shoulders. Then a spiral motion, double helix movement. During this double helix movement, we want to experience the twisting and fully dispersed nei qi twisting to reach and finish in both hands. That's what's called silk reeling hands (缠丝手).
[translation cleaned up a bit]

It's hard to argue with that.
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby everything on Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:06 pm

much more readable translation, thanks a lot.

the double helix, nei qi twisting part is really interesting from a taiji concept pov and an energetic experience pov imo. a sort of "mother palm". the circle he talks about with the feet as well.
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby robert on Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:03 am

everything wrote:the double helix, nei qi twisting part is really interesting from a taiji concept pov and an energetic experience pov imo.

I thought that was interesting because that's basically the way I was taught silk reeling exercises. First, we learned the physical movement and after we could move the body with connection the teacher pointed out what was happening with qi. After you learn a few silk reeling exercises that way you can turn it around when doing the form and then the qi guides the form. At that point a person is self-correcting. That took me many years.
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby everything on Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:17 am

This move feels “stronger” and different to me. “Double helix” rotation feels a little strange/new. Not sure I got the coordination exactly right. I notice they always put the left hand on top.
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby windwalker on Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:52 am

Not affiliated with the teacher, organization, group,

posted for informational purposes only.

The teacher has a on line course...and other videos which might help to clear up questions..

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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby Appledog on Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:42 pm

Do you really want to learn kung fu?
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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby origami_itto on Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:21 am

Appledog wrote:Do you really want to learn kung fu?

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Re: Nan Pai Tai Chi Gong

Postby everything on Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:00 am

the foundation is difficult/powerful enough. perhaps we can really say it's everything. hence "the mother palm" concept.
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