Xingyiquan's Five Element Form

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Xingyiquan's Five Element Form

Postby Kong Bao Long on Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:56 pm

Wu Xing … The Five elements.
In my linage, Believed to have been added to liuhe Xinyi Quan by Li Luoneng.. which was then taught as Xingyi quan, Li Luoneng (also named Li Nengran) ran a bodyguard and caravan escort service protecting stagecoaches and money. In the In thealy 1800s

As a Hebei Xingyi Quan practioner you obviously practice the five elements, but do you train the Mother Fist?

The Five Elements form?

Linking together the generation of the five elements. Its gong is deep and scholarly. It is not just weaving together the elements in a generating order.

There are five elements, but each element has multiple variations.

PI Quan (metal)
Stepping forward, Stepping backward, Shaking body, Turning body & Plucking hand

Zuan Quan (Water)
Forward, Advancing, Retreating, Weaving, Turning, Twisting & Plucking.

Beng Quan (Wood)

Left, Forward, Backward, Body shaking, Body turning, Cross Shaped,
Step through leg, Right leg & Pulling hand leg


Pao Quan (Fire)

Twist Step, Forward step Backward step, Weaving body, Turning body
Consecutive steping & Pulling hand

Heng Quan (Earth)

Twisted step, Forward step, Backward step, Shaking body, Turning body, Smooth
& Plucking.

Multiple variations of the Element should be inserted in the Wu Xing/Mother fist generation cycle, paying attention to the natural guards, parry’s and shields’ that manifest while moving from one element to another. throws, reeps and sweeps to include chin-na within the various elements, a step is a kick, know what stepping in what element corresponds to what kick.. T

Then as always… go apply what you have learned, maintained and internalized. Train that YI!
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Re: Xingyiquan's Five Element Form

Postby Trick on Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:09 am

Hubei Xingyiquan ?

As mentioned in another thread, Hengquan is usually seen as the mother-fist. The 5 element linking form is nice, seemingly simple but contain riches, in the one i practice Heng has a special place.
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Re: Xingyiquan's Five Element Form

Postby origami_itto on Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:36 am

As I understand what I practice, the single elements come first, then the change form, then the linking form, then the animals, all together you practice all of those variations.
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Re: Xingyiquan's Five Element Form

Postby nicklinjm on Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:20 pm

Pretty sure Kong Bao Long means Hebei Xingyi.....Hubei not especially famous for its martial arts!

It's nice that you have so many variations of the 5 elements but the English translations are pretty awkward, would be easier to correlate if there was some video available.
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Re: Xingyiquan's Five Element Form

Postby Kong Bao Long on Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:44 am

nicklinjm wrote:Pretty sure Kong Bao Long means Hebei Xingyi.....Hubei not especially famous for its martial arts!

It's nice that you have so many variations of the 5 elements but the English translations are pretty awkward, would be easier to correlate if there was some video available.


You are correct.. I spell like shite and type even worse. (thank God for spell check... now if I would just proof read what I write) Once my fingers get set on how a word is typed... I struggle to un-lean it. Hubei, and Hebei are one such case. etc and their... continually I type them as ect and thier... if there is a form of typing dyslexia I have it.

I have some time during the holidays ... I'll see if I can put to video the various permutations of the Wuxing. My linage comes down from Li Cunyi, by way of Jiang Rongqiao I popular branch.. probably see thing that are very familiar
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