Turn your head back

[Giles]

Isn’t anyone going to point out Mario,s errors

Go ahead, Wayne.

[wayne hansen]

I prefer to sit back and see what you know
If none can see I will chime in

[Giles]

Good Grief, Charlie Brown!

[origami_itto]

The main idea of repulse monkey is it's that you're retreating. That and retreat to ride tiger are the only two backwards steps in the forms.

The Song of Retreat

If our steps follow the changes of our body,
then our technique will be perfect.
We must avoid fullness and emphasize
emptiness so that our opponent lands
on nothing.
To fail to retreat when retreat is called for
is neither wise nor courageous.
A retreat is really an advance if
we can turn it to a counter-attack

So it's saying the legs follow the torso, like most good Taijiquan, right? To keep that sung connection we aren't using the leg muscles to move them directly.
As they advance, we guide them into emptiness and retreat because they are just bringing too much for us to handle.
In reality, the retreat is hiding the attack as the rear hand intercepts their incoming mass.

[Reggie]

I have always regarded the kick as essential in the application of repulse monkey.

The vid that Steve posted comes close but the kick would have to be a
departure from the raise knee step back movement.
Ideally a toe kick under the armpit after a block or strike with the wrist.
Thenapply the simpler obvious arm drag and cover or push or strike.

John - I always enjoy GM Chang vids. Like watching Bruce Lee movies His kick must have been like a mule.
I have never seen a vid where he did not simply snap the feet of his opponent out from under them.

No back head turn in repulse monkey - it is all coming from the front

[windwalker]

So it's saying the legs follow the torso, like most good Taijiquan, right? .

no


along with

No back head turn in repulse monkey - it is all coming from the front

maybe, maybe not

[origami_itto]

So it's saying the legs follow the torso, like most good Taijiquan, right? .

no

Care to expand on that answer?

[windwalker]

So it's saying the legs follow the torso, like most good Taijiquan, right? .

no

Care to expand on that answer?

after you post a clip of either yourself or someone else "wayne" doing it

[origami_itto]

So it's saying the legs follow the torso, like most good Taijiquan, right? .

after you post a clip of either yourself or someone else "wayne" doing it

Can you clarify what you're saying?

Are you disagreeing with the legs following the torso in the movement or that most good Taijiquan contains it or that it's something "wayne" (if that is is real name) and/or I can't display?

[windwalker]

So it's saying the legs follow the torso, like most good Taijiquan, right? .

after you post a clip of either yourself or someone else "wayne" doing it

Can you clarify what you're saying?

Are you disagreeing with the legs following the torso in the movement or that most good Taijiquan contains it or that it's something "wayne" (if that is is real name) and/or I can't display?

joking about the Wayne, thought you would catch that..

lets start with "most good taiji quan". by who's standard what method..

followed by a request to show what is posted,
instead of posting quotations saying the opposite wouldn't it be better to show?

[origami_itto]

joking about the Wayne, thought you would catch that..

lets start with "most good taiji quan". by who's standard what method..

followed by a request to show what is posted,
instead of posting quotations saying the opposite wouldn't it be better to show?

Oh, yeah, I'm just continuing the joke.

"most good taiji quan" I would say by the standard of the body method. Of course some time we need to use regular muscular contraction directly to move things, but the main idea as I get it is that as our body responds up top to what is happening, the bottom will adjust to provide support where it is needed. If that includes a "step" then the leg moves.

Our muscles are "passive" as we usually understand them, the sung connection through the body in, for example, repulse monkey is what carries the energy to the leg to move it, not the contraction of the red meat.

Wish I had time to make videos, maybe soon.

[wayne hansen]

You are right about the kick it is an essential part of RM weather it is used or not it must always be there
If you want to understand yang style retreat to ride tiger you need to look to the Wu style version
Yielding from the torso Leah’s leads the legs weather advancing or retreating
To understand Yang RM it also good to explore the Sun Wu Fu and Chen versions
They all say something important about the Yang version

[johnwang]

John - I always enjoy GM Chang vids. Like watching Bruce Lee movies His kick must have been like a mule.
I have never seen a vid where he did not simply snap the feet of his opponent out from under them.

Most people's take down is just to trap/block opponent's leg. The true take down is to knock your opponent's both feet off the ground.

Only when I have reached to his age, I then realize how difficult it is to maintain "leg skill" through the old age. Something you can do when you are young. It doesn't mean that you can do when you are old. QAQ

[wayne hansen]

That is a little like the Wu application but nothing like the yang
Nor any of the others

[Reggie]

I can agree with maybe, maybe not.

Must add that I am looking to another move if from back or side.
Especially I will cancel retreat if coming from the rear.