GrahamB wrote:The six harmonies do not belong to Taijiquan. They are older, they come from Xin Yi, but could have existed way before. Who knows. They are not unique to Taijiquan, that's simply wrong. Again.
So there's no Six Harmonies in tjq? Or is there?
Re: the Six Harmonies, here's what I wrote in my reply to you on page Five referring to the concept, The Six Are One; "That idea is the cornerstone to all the rest of what I understand about putting tjq into the body." So I'm clearly talking about tjq and not Xin Yi. Please try to keep up and follow what's being said so your argument doesn't obfuscate the central point of what's being said. It's easy...
Here's what I wrote in a later reply as to what was intended by dropping the concept, The Six Are One, for the purpose of "changing the language";
"At the same time, it points to the inseparability of the physical arrangement and the energy management that is unique to tjq" Again, I'm talking about the Six Harmonies as it pertains to tjq. Nowhere did I even imply that the Six Harmonies is the exclusive domain of tjq.
So, the way in which that cornerstone (Six Harmonies) supports putting tjq into the body is in keeping with the
"physical arrangement and energy management that is unique to tjq", (thus making The Six Are One unique to the development of tjq body-method) and NOT congruent with Xin Yi because xy is xy and tjq is tjq - and, their six 'parts' are inseparable from one another as a working model for putting tjq into the body. Hence my using my own words to change the language when it come to the Six Harmonies that, The Six Are One, in dispelling the misconception that there are 'three external' and 'three internal' harmonies that are separate from each other.
I'm breaking trail into a new way of understanding the Six Harmonies away from the erroneous and misleading notion of there being 'three external' and 'three internal' harmonies in the tjq paradigm and all the erroneous and misleading jib-jab that follows that notion.
But of course, that's just common knowledge now, isn't it? Or is it?
As to the whole body being a fist thing you attempted as an obfuscation of what I'm talking about, that aint how tjq works...that's how Xin Yi works
GrahamB wrote:Yes, but they were in Xin Yi first, which is where Taijiquan got them from. That's the point.
No, that isn't the point we're addressing and not the one you're arguing against. You're making a different point to cover for your erroneous assumptions of what the concept, The Six Are One, represents.