Hair Combing

[Royal Dragon]

You see it in Shaolin Xiao Hong Quan

0:32-0:33 and 0:52-0:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsfMLyGkmaE

You also see it in various places on the Da hong set as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1h8pyH7 ... re=related

[everything]

Seems to be at roughly 1:00 in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc8urlr8RM0

[zenman]

We did it in Hapkido...kinda like Elvis brushing his hand over his hair . Then made a grab, ripped their arm off and beat them with it.

[Craig]

this is a very common move in xin yi liu he, i think the english translation is something like "cat washes face". JB might be able to help out on the exact name. It is part of core training in xinyi liuhe and one of my favourite moves for both defense and entry with elbows and shoulders.

[nianfong]

The guy in your picture's got his elbows out waaay too wide, but yeah, it's a useful move....especially against hooks.

agreed... that's dong zhong yi. In the chang (Bao ding) system, we are taught a tighter angle.

[oldtyger]

Hmmm....that's interesting. I have not learned that specific physical movement but then again, I'm not that advanced in any of my arts. In the Wu style taijiquan, I have learned something with a similar name "Comb the hair" in English which is probably exactly the same in Chinese as the movement you've listed. The movement is from push hands--so I was never taught against a strike but I believe it might work. The way I was taught is a redirection of someone's push upwards on my forearm/wrist and you do mimic combing your hair left to right behind your head with the hand.

Also I learned a technique that is also similar from someone a long time ago--Filipino technique. It's like washing your face, elbow is down--and this was meant to redirect someone else's strike to your head.

[Darth Rock&Roll]

in the cowboy punch thread, this is what i reference as a destruction or dissolving move.

rodney kings is a good tape from sbg (straight blast gym).

in the hung kuen (or other styles that use it), it is not only a deflection, it is also an attack. upward elbow strike followed by downward followed by a biu ji to soft target. this is the elbows out. with the elbows in and tight to the body, it's useful as a strong defense against most incoming hand strikes.

[johnwang]

The prey mantis system call this move as "掛 (Gua) - hang" and always followed by "插掌 (Cha Zhang) - palm strike" by using the same hand to strike back to your opponent's face.

[everything]

from that monkey page:


3rd one is almost identical to that wu (hao) clip

[Darth Rock&Roll]

yes, that's a destruction. works great! tested and approved. lol

also seam pushing, palm patting and wrist chopping are key depending on where the incoming is coming from in context to where you are.
(also whether or not you can "see" it)

[tim_stl]

from that monkey page:

nice. we call that the standing monkey position, but generally use it to enter to a clinch.


tim

[johnwang]

The "single hooking and hair combing", "double hooking and hair combing", and "mixed hooking and hair combing" were the ancient SC solo forms #1, #2, and #3. In other words, ancient SC guys would train "grip fight" before they even started to learn their 1st throw. To learn grip fight in the very early stage in SC seems conflict with the Judo "learning grip fight only in the advance stage".

Similar throw arts but different emphasis between Chinese SC and Japanese Judo. Why both approaches are so different? What's more important than deflecting an incoming punch to your face?