CaliG wrote:wiesiek wrote:Greg
I'm curious about why don't like to drop to the knees for ippon.
These days ippon is done a lot this way. Although world champions use it, to be honest I'm not really a big fan of it. Simply because if you don't get it you're out of luck to do anything else
I'd like to get your perspective on things, everything helps.
Greg
Hi Greg
you alredy get main point -
seoinage on the knee is end of the game /if you're out of luck/:
1. you are unable to go for any throwin` combination
2. very easy to avoid
3. not to mention concret in real life situaton
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seoinage love to be conected with inner sweps /ouchi or kouchi gari/ when uke block your entry
or
you can fast go out and in again for another throw /seoinage one more time or another "big" throw of your choice/
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this type of the seoinage was also "popular" between some of judokas in my judo days .
Friend of mine even made it his "tokui waza"
but
he NEVER was able to throw me such way even during randori
he was able to pull me into ne waza - at his best
of course during the fight lot of things may happen and sometimes kneelin`seoinage is working
but
most of the times you find yourself in uncomfortable ne waza situatons /risk of choking or arm bar/
so
if you are not a ne waza master
i dont recomended training this way
sambo are much better i this case - they use different grips than judo and has alot more "lo throws "tech.
pozdro.
W.