To learn without a Teacher?

[golden-tree]

Hi

I got a discussion with a person i met on a seminar last week.

He said that he is just learning Xing Yi Quan by performing the 5 fists and the 12 animal forms and visiting 2 seminars in the year. He started learning the five fists just by reading books and wachting videos on it. I think his technique was not bad...

But I was a little bit skeptical. I think it ist important to practice every day on your own, but don't you think you need more regular corrections by your teacher to make progress?

So is it possible to learn Xing Yi just by reading books, watching some clips and visiting 2 seminars in a year? What do you think about it?

[mixjourneyman]

This topic must get threshed out at least 10 times a year.
It is utterly impossible to learn the internal mechanics of xingyi without a teacher to physically correct you (its hard enough to learn with a teacher correcting lol).

[Daniel]

Nope.

You will also, 1) train in some seriously bad mistakes and ingrain them, 2) risk training stuff that might seriously mess up your health down the line, especially if training power practices of some sort, and 3) nope.


D.

Sarcasm. Oh yeah, like that´ll work.

[Jake]

Depends on the person.

That said a good teacher is a must.

That said.... This shit aint rocket science.

That said I've been doing this for a really long time so you should ignore everything I've previously typed.

[Bao]

So is it possible to learn Xing Yi just by reading books, watching some clips and visiting 2 seminars in a year? What do you think about it?

If your teacher is very good and the seminars intense, I think you can get something out of it. But then your main focus should be basics, and what you are taught, you need to learn very,very well. Don't mix it with various stuff you read or watch. To build a foundation you need jibeng gong and a lot of repetition. To go further, you need an experienced teacher. So personally I think that if you are sincere and approach what you are taught with caution, this learning method should be quite allright.

But to clearify my own postition, I should add that XY is my second style and not my main focus. And about half of what I know is self taught. So you better listen to someone with more experience, someone who take XY more seriously than me.

[mixjourneyman]

I disagree, it obviously is rocket science.

[Jake]

Your from Canada.... You just got back from Japan...

I can't speak with you right now as your very obviously in between...

I make no sence... Hence, I study no rocket science... We only move our bodies.

[mixjourneyman]

Are you drunk?

We should have a rule against posting drunk unless done by Bao (who is pretty funny drunk).

[Jake]

Bruther....

There true-ly isn't much tht can beat a beer buzz in the morning !!!

Getting it together to leave thius shithole I've been forced to live inb for the last two uyears... Trop and Maryland... One of the highest crime rates in Las vegas....l In other words.... "The hood"

Yeah, I AM sorta drunk. Good times my brutha!!! (and good times to be leaving!)

[mixjourneyman]

I'm glad you are getting out of there.
Living in Shite parts of town can't be fun for too long.

[Bao]

We should have a rule against posting drunk unless done by Bao (who is pretty funny drunk).

Thanks for the compliment Mix!

... The only I have recieved for a long time now. No "good post", no "qft", no "I agree", no nothing - just "you are funny when you post drunk".

[mixjourneyman]

We should have a rule against posting drunk unless done by Bao (who is pretty funny drunk).

Thanks for the compliment Mix!

... The only I have recieved for a long time now. No "good post", no "qft", no "I agree", no nothing - just "you are funny when you post drunk".

I think this calls for a mug full of peach Schanps (sp?), or was that Deuce?

[Daniel]

Mix, ask him what "Renat" means. That´s a good beverage to explain to other nationalities.


D.

Sarcasm. Oh yeah, like that´ll work.

[mixjourneyman]

Mix, ask him what "Renat" means. That´s a good beverage to explain to other nationalities.


D.

Sarcasm. Oh yeah, like that´ll work.

Ok, what is it?

No matter what it is it can't beat cow piss soda from India!

[bruce]

in general i do think you need a good teacher ...

but

what about all the old stories you hear about a guy finding a secret training manual and learning from it (a book) and becoming "masters"

or a chance meeting in the mountains with some master and learning from them for a very short time and becoming "masters" are these just stories or could there be any truth to them.