getting kicked in the jing sack

[ninepalace]

a couple years ago i saw some discovery channel type of program where these people from new england were letting people hit them in the throat and nuts. one guy let a college football punter drop kick his crotch without showing a grimace.

though i have no intention of perusing this "skill", i am curious what the training is to allow this. i'm sure everyone here has read kumar frantzis' account of how wang shujin could suck his nuts up into his body, but is that the only way it's done? anyone know of the people i'm talking about and what their training is?

[ashe]

there was a clip up on youtube of some guys letting genki sudo doing the same.

[nianfong]

there's a local guy who can pull a 747 with his penis, and can also pull his nuts into his body. I saw him perform once, where he pulled them in, stood in a horse stance, and let his students kick him hard in the groin several times. straight from underneath, no side action. his name is tu jin sheng

-Fong

[Bill]

That's the Juko Kai guys, they call it their Combat Ki.

http://www.jukokai.com/

[DeusTrismegistus]

The only method of training this I know of is in a book my teacher let me and my brother borrow. It listed different Kungs and how to train them. It had several Yang (hard) Kungs and Several Yin (soft) Kungs. The Yang ones were things like Iron Leg, Iron Palm, Iron Fist, Jumping Kung, Running Kung, Climbing Kung. The soft ones weren't as many but it had red sand palm(? maybe wrong), one finger kung, and maybe a couple others. I forget where it classified the ball kung but the method of training it was to meditate and use your intention to pull your nuts up into the body. Interestingly the Yin Kungs were the one touch or no touch kill type things and they listed a rough time to master with daily practice as 20-30 years. The Yang kungs could be mastered in 3-5 years of daily practice.

[Jake]

The only method of training this I know of is in a book my teacher let me and my brother borrow. It listed different Kungs and how to train them. It had several Yang (hard) Kungs and Several Yin (soft) Kungs. The Yang ones were things like Iron Leg, Iron Palm, Iron Fist, Jumping Kung, Running Kung, Climbing Kung. The soft ones weren't as many but it had red sand palm(? maybe wrong), one finger kung, and maybe a couple others. I forget where it classified the ball kung but the method of training it was to meditate and use your intention to pull your nuts up into the body. Interestingly the Yin Kungs were the one touch or no touch kill type things and they listed a rough time to master with daily practice as 20-30 years. The Yang kungs could be mastered in 3-5 years of daily practice.

For some reason your post made me think of something a read a lot of years ago and how many millions of beers ago since...

But...

Once apon a time (in China) there was a young man that heard of a great master. "Fuckin-A man, I've gotta check this dude out!" so he went off in search of the master of great reknown. Finaly after searching and inquireing the young man found the master, but was slightly disappointed. The master was an old man who sold paper. After a lot of pleading and pounding his head on the ground untill it was red (kowtowing) the old man said "Awwww what the fuck... I'll train ya"...

And so the training began. The old man took the young man into a room that was filled with rolls of paper. The old man said "Here dude... do this just like I do" And so saying took a hold of a peice of paper, ripped it off the roll and crumpled it into a ball. The old man then uncrumpled the ball of paper and began to smooth it out with the palm of his hand until it was all smooth again.

So the young man started smoothing and crumpleing and smoothing and crumpleing the paper.... Day in and day fucking out.... He's smoothing and fucking crumpleing. This is all the guy does for like three years.

One day the master comes into the room... Looks around and says "OK man... You've been here long enough. Now ya gotta get the fuck outta here so c-ya"

The young man is heart broken... "What the fuck? I crumpled and smoothed that fucking paper every damn day for three years waiting until he's show me something and this is all I get???"

So he goes back home to his village. The first night he get's back his brother and he are washing up after a day out in the field. His bro turns to him and says "Hey man, can ya scrub my back?"

All of a sudden the whole peace-full village is alarmed by screams coming from the wash hut. When the villagers rush in...

They see that every bit of skin on the back that had been under the brothers hand when he did his downward slide... has been peeled off down to the muscle and bone.
...........................

LOL... At least that's how I remember it. LOL!

Cheers man... I love old storys like that and I'd love to know the name of the book the you and your brother borrowed.

[Bill]

The Juko Kai boys harden themselves by hitting themselves all over with a flat stick, even striking their balls with it.

[lazyboxer]

Going way, way back - I remember seeing "Professor" Frank de Felice, Juko-Kai founder "Mr. Controversial" Rod Sacharnowski's acolyte, (he was calling it kajukenbo at the time) at an Aaron Banks chop suey spectacular in the Big Apple circa 1970 taking full power chops to the throat (Adam´s apple included) from 3 VERY big guys, and then getting similar treatment to the cojones. I heard he died a few years later. There´s a moral here somewhere.

Ben Lo always told me to avoid being hit. I have faithfully followed his advice until now, and enjoy good health.

[Bill]

Right. I saw them at the '74 Winternationals in Long Beach. They took strikes by anyone who would like to. I was impressed. Afterwards I was told, by a top instructor, that that specific training would take 3 years off the end of your life.

[Ben]

Ben Lo always told me to avoid being hit. I have faithfully followed his advice until now, and enjoy good health.

Word!

[jjy5016]

a couple years ago i saw some discovery channel type of program where these people from new england were letting people hit them in the throat and nuts. one guy let a college football punter drop kick his crotch without showing a grimace.

though i have no intention of perusing this "skill", i am curious what the training is to allow this. i'm sure everyone here has read kumar frantzis' account of how wang shujin could suck his nuts up into his body, but is that the only way it's done? anyone know of the people i'm talking about and what their training is?

I met one of his students who taught me their method. It wasn't anything special. They would tuck the hips so that instead of the balls just hanging they would "hide" behind the penis so that they weren't actually being hit. They would stretch the head up while tucking the chin to take the hit to the throat. They practice it in the san chin stance (similar to SPM) It works, but I have better things to do than whack my balls with a paddle so that they become accustomed to trauma.

[circle_walker]

Cheers man... I love old storys like that and I'd love to know the name of the book the you and your brother borrowed.

I believe that the book in question is "Kung Fu history, philosophy, technique".

[SitYodTong]

Cheers man... I love old storys like that and I'd love to know the name of the book the you and your brother borrowed.

I believe that the book in question is "Kung Fu history, philosophy, technique".

Yes, it is, and it a huge load of crap. Lots of silly myths about CMA have been spread by that one bound turd of book.

[Andy_S]

Ben Lo speaks truth. Better to practice hitting than getting hit. IIRC, Troy remembered one of them dying from this training/beating.

You will notice that these guys do not bash themselves in the face , but when they had Genki spanking them I was a bit wide-eyed. Unfortunately, they did not do any sparring with him...then we would have seen how indestructible they are in motion,rather than standing there and sucking it in. Still...yeah...impressive demo.

[Ian]

question - does training your twig and berries to withstand this kind of punishment improve its function (pissing and having sex, not pulling 747s)?