2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

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2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby iwalkthecircle on Tue May 13, 2008 2:10 am

I been talking with JW about releasing the movie* from John Wang's 2004 SC workshop in Denver featuring JW throwing my ass all over the park. i fell pretty hard on a few throws. If you like to see my ass fly all over the place please let me know & order on this thread.

(mp4 movie file* NOTE: THE INITIAL RELEASE WILL NOT BE IN DVD FORMAT TO CUT DOWN COST & FILE SIZE. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DOWNLOAD or USE iTune or VLC I DONOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY except: "go install a damn program u damn HIPPY! STOP using your 8Track or OLD record players, horse buggies, & we have MP3 and cars now live with it." )


It will be for $35. Right now the whole movie is saved as mpeg4, so it is very small (117MB). The quality of DVD is not HD and is shot using my home video. You could using payPal or check after I have cashed it. My payPal account is 'hsieh_john AT yahoo dot com'

I have deleted all my raw files when I needed spaces on my Mac awhile back sorry. I cannot convert it into an actual DVD. SORRY Jake & others.




everyOne on the workshop that day already have a FREE copy from me. & couple other yiZung guys in USA has this movie as well. I would ask if you guys DO NOT give it away free. 60% of the NET profit goes to John Wang himself, 5% goes back into EF**, and finally 35% goes to me with the 1st $100 goes to me for editing this movie.....

if you already have a free copy please feel free to donate to babyCircle's college fund via my payPal account or specify if you just want to send money to JW.



**5% is for donation back to EF for the software (to Fong right?) Initially 20% was going to Brian at EF.net, he has given me a verbal Okay to use it anyway I wanted including babyCircle college fund. He also wanted me to state that "this movie is not related to him in any way, shape, or form; he just wanted some good SC out there."


basically the whole movie is lots throws with some very nice entries and setup shot from different angles. This movie does not have any dragon arm stuff. Just the throws and entries from different doors.





I have found a good way to deliver this file electronically for Free. I already tried one way w/ JW, & it seem to work well.



you can also order via my gmail: iWalkTheCircle AT gmail DOT com



**WARNING MP4 WILL NOT PLAY ON A NORMAL DVD PLAYER, IT REQUIRES MP4 DECODER (iTune, or VLC player)*********
(THE RELEASE WILL NOT BE IN DVD FORMAT TO CUT DOWN COST & FILE SIZE. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DOWNLOAD iTune or VLC FROM INTERNET I DONOT KNOW WHAT TO SAY except: "go install a damn program u damn HIPPY! STOP using your 8Track or OLD record players, horse buggies, & we have MP3 and cars now live with it." )




***mp4 release****
order#; paidOrNot; status; movieID; comments;
Code: Select all
1) DeusTrismegistus;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
2) SteveBonzak;paidByPaypal; Uploaded; mp4_ver1;
3) Dillon;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
4) Dale Dugas;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
5) SitYodTong;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
6) wolfram;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
7) Henry;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
8> Kaitain;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
9) internalenthusiast;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
10) cloudhandz;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
11) sekhmet;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
12) xbl;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
13) martin;not paid; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
14) pat;free; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
15) HopGarSanSau;free; notUploaded; mp4_ver1;
16) blueSky; checkCashed; senddDVDinMp4; mp4_ver1; good guy;


**hippies that only want DVD at future release:*****
JAB and CaliG I am sorry, I deleted the raw files to make them into DVD..... it is already compress into MP4.



regards,
John H =)



===MOVIE FILE REVIEWS ======
PLEASE SEE THREAD BELOW FOR REVIEWS OF THIS MOVIE FILE
http://www.emptyflower.net/forums/index ... =3824&st=0




===DISCLAIMER FROM BRIAN OF EMPTYFLOWER.NET :: 2008.05.12========
This is just a small disclaimer. This video, while it was originally planned (under other circumstances) to be an EF.net
release, has no official connection to ef.net. We are glad to see John Wang getting his material out there, but it's nothing
we are *connected* with, whether providing distribution, merchant stuff, or receiving anything whatsoever from it.

We wish IWalkTheCircle and Mr. Wang the best, and are glad to see them tell people what they offer just like
any other cool member offer.

But it's NOTHING we are *involved* in.



===========
JW and I decided to take the approach of openSource accounting & ordering.
first net $100 is for me editing videos, after that 60% JW & 35% IWTC & 5% EF.


2) SteveBonzak;paidByPaypal;$33
16) blueSky;check;$35
balance: $68:: 2008.06.01
EF (5%)= $3.40
JW (60%)= $0
IWTC ($100 init+ 35% after)= $64.60
Last edited by iwalkthecircle on Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:24 am, edited 5 times in total.
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby Iskendar on Tue May 13, 2008 8:08 am

iwalkthecircle wrote:I have deleted all my raw files when I needed spaces on my Mac awhile back sorry. I cannot convert it into an actual DVD. SORRY Jake & others.


Sure you can. You can transcode any file to mpeg2 format, which is dvd format. You won't be regaining any quality, but you can make a dvd playing on any normal dvd player. Not saying that you should.
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby bluesky on Wed May 14, 2008 1:08 am

I like to order a copy, but I don't want to use paypal.

can you pm me a postal address to send the check?

thanks
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby iwalkthecircle on Wed May 14, 2008 1:45 am

Iskendar wrote:
iwalkthecircle wrote:I have deleted all my raw files when I needed spaces on my Mac awhile back sorry. I cannot convert it into an actual DVD. SORRY Jake & others.


Sure you can. You can transcode any file to mpeg2 format, which is dvd format. You won't be regaining any quality, but you can make a dvd playing on any normal dvd player. Not saying that you should.


i did not know that.
when i converted into mpeg4 using iMovie i did lost the quality already like you said.
so i will not unless everyOne wants DVD.


@blueSky is there a reason why U don't wanna use payPal?
I have PM you my address.
Just make sure you have the following:
1) a fast connection to download the mp4 file
2) an iTune, QuickTime, VLC, iPod player
3) understand and read every details on my first post
4) enjoy


please feel free to ask any question from the movie file? I am sure JW or mySelf can answer some of it.
I will upload the file one i cash the check.
please check post number one for your status, ur orderID is #16.
Last edited by iwalkthecircle on Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:55 am, edited 1 time in total.
謝奇錚, 鄉人多稱「小謝 」,「阿奇仔」亦以自稱。
臺灣臺南人,初學八卦掌, 後學保定摔角 皆在美國
(臺灣或曰福爾摩沙,蓋葡萄牙文美麗島之意也)
保定摔角(SC)-- John Wang(王世元), Matt Mollica
高氏八卦掌(Gao BGZ)-- Marcus Brinkman, Luo deXiu (羅德修), Yang yuSen(楊育森)
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby iwalkthecircle on Wed May 14, 2008 2:34 am

RE: $35 and no DVD Shocked John you are not even trying bro! {JAB}
SORRY no going back to undelete or uncompress my files.....

hey JAB can I have the DVD from JW seminar from Seatle 2007? you can give it to me any format....
i do prefer mp4 since you and I can both upload and download it faster.....
謝奇錚, 鄉人多稱「小謝 」,「阿奇仔」亦以自稱。
臺灣臺南人,初學八卦掌, 後學保定摔角 皆在美國
(臺灣或曰福爾摩沙,蓋葡萄牙文美麗島之意也)
保定摔角(SC)-- John Wang(王世元), Matt Mollica
高氏八卦掌(Gao BGZ)-- Marcus Brinkman, Luo deXiu (羅德修), Yang yuSen(楊育森)
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby iwalkthecircle on Wed May 14, 2008 8:15 am

Steve,

I just send the link to you via your earthLink email.

Paypal paid me $32.98 after the commission.

cheers,
JH =)
謝奇錚, 鄉人多稱「小謝 」,「阿奇仔」亦以自稱。
臺灣臺南人,初學八卦掌, 後學保定摔角 皆在美國
(臺灣或曰福爾摩沙,蓋葡萄牙文美麗島之意也)
保定摔角(SC)-- John Wang(王世元), Matt Mollica
高氏八卦掌(Gao BGZ)-- Marcus Brinkman, Luo deXiu (羅德修), Yang yuSen(楊育森)
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby bluesky on Sat May 31, 2008 6:32 pm

This is my review of the Denver workshop

the video is 17 minutes at length.

In this workshop, Sifu Wang presented the algorithm of the combat shuai chiao approach to fighting.

the algorithm is, make initial gambit by knee kick, build a bridge (form body connection), enter opponent space, finish via throw. The mentality is to attack.

In short, he teaches you the framework of the entire system, the six door theory. he shows you how to enter the opponent's space through these six doors and finish. The six doors are front and back door, two outer and two inner side doors.

Most throws are demonstrated three times, front view, back view, and side view. The leg lifting throw is only shown with front and back view. There might be two other throws with only front and back view.


22 throws in all.

The workshop was designed to teach the overall framework of the system (at least that is the impression I got from reviewing the video). It presents the six door entry system through 22 semi-cooperate drills to teach the 22 throws.

It is really good for intermediate and advance player who already have a base and is looking to augment the tools available to him.

It is good for beginner to learn the throw and adopt the systematic approach of combat shuai chiao.

These drills can be easily adopted to be practice in more alive manner with full resistence. so, they are well designed.


why should you get the video?

This is a good reference which take various throws of the combat shuai chiao system and presented in a framework that will be readily available to you to borrow and incorporate into your own skill set.

John Wang showed all six of the entry methods of his system

This is a way to give appreciation to Sifu Wang and support emptyflower.

get the dvd, so you got the powah!



detail of throws shown

left outer door

* front cut
* knee seizing


left inner door
* front embracing
(for this throw the video quality is very grainy. You can still see the action and the movement and learning process is not interrupted, video production quality on this part is just not good)

* fireman carry

Right indoor

* inner leg hooking

* twisting and springing

front door

hip throwing
leg blocking

back door

embracing (elephant nose)
spinning

left side door
* begger carry dog
* helmet removes


left indoor
* leg seizing
* inner heel hook

right indoor

* leg lifting
* inner breaks


right side door

*forward kick
*sticky kick

front door
* leg twisting
* tearing shoulder throw
* follow
* resist

back door
* sending away
* indoor leg blocking
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby iwalkthecircle on Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:41 am

bluesky wrote:
left inner door
* front embracing
(for this throw the video quality is very grainy. You can still see the action and the movement and learning process is not interrupted, video production quality on this part is just not good)



sorry this is actually CG from iMovies, i was play with it and canNot resist trying this out so it looks like a old film.


cheers,
John H.
謝奇錚, 鄉人多稱「小謝 」,「阿奇仔」亦以自稱。
臺灣臺南人,初學八卦掌, 後學保定摔角 皆在美國
(臺灣或曰福爾摩沙,蓋葡萄牙文美麗島之意也)
保定摔角(SC)-- John Wang(王世元), Matt Mollica
高氏八卦掌(Gao BGZ)-- Marcus Brinkman, Luo deXiu (羅德修), Yang yuSen(楊育森)
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby DeusTrismegistus on Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:34 am

It will be next week before I can pay. I will let you know.
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby iwalkthecircle on Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:18 pm

2theTop.... sold to copies already, 198 more to go.




review from Brian at ef.net/hong-ye .....

[quote name='.Y.' date='Mar 31 2008, 10:36 AM' post='66416']
I got a sneak peak at this btw (had too since it's one of the EF/Hong-Ye special projects) and it's some
sweet throwing.

EF/HY would support this sort of thing just for pride to be honest (I mean... it's JOHN WANG!!) but if
it helps out the man and is a service to the people... even better.

I would just like to say additionally that this is something iwalkthecircle just offered to try and make happen
out of sheer love for the arts.

SPOT ON BEVIN!!!!!
[/quote]
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謝奇錚, 鄉人多稱「小謝 」,「阿奇仔」亦以自稱。
臺灣臺南人,初學八卦掌, 後學保定摔角 皆在美國
(臺灣或曰福爾摩沙,蓋葡萄牙文美麗島之意也)
保定摔角(SC)-- John Wang(王世元), Matt Mollica
高氏八卦掌(Gao BGZ)-- Marcus Brinkman, Luo deXiu (羅德修), Yang yuSen(楊育森)
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby nianfong on Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:47 pm

sounds like a good intro to the baoding system.
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby CaliG on Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:46 am

iwalkthecircle wrote:**hippies that only want DVD at future release:*****
JAB and CaliG I am sorry, I deleted the raw files to make them into DVD..... it is already compress into MP4.

regards,
John H =)


Damn Dude! You still going on about all that!

Someone needs to smoke a fattie and put on the freedom rock man. ;)
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Re: 2004 Denver SC workshop movie by JW & IWTC

Postby iwalkthecircle on Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:01 am

CaliG wrote:
iwalkthecircle wrote:**hippies that only want DVD at future release:*****
JAB and CaliG I am sorry, I deleted the raw files to make them into DVD..... it is already compress into MP4.

regards,
John H =)


Damn Dude! You still going on about all that!

Someone needs to smoke a fattie and put on the freedom rock man. ;)




you wanna buy it or not damn hippy. ;);););););)
謝奇錚, 鄉人多稱「小謝 」,「阿奇仔」亦以自稱。
臺灣臺南人,初學八卦掌, 後學保定摔角 皆在美國
(臺灣或曰福爾摩沙,蓋葡萄牙文美麗島之意也)
保定摔角(SC)-- John Wang(王世元), Matt Mollica
高氏八卦掌(Gao BGZ)-- Marcus Brinkman, Luo deXiu (羅德修), Yang yuSen(楊育森)
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