kettlebells hurting? q. for systema folk et al.

[Ian]

BH that's good advice. Thanks.

I'm going to work on my alignment for a while and then hit the weights again and see how it goes.

[Dale Dugas]

I play around with bells as well as bands, indian clubs, water filled balls, shotputs and iron rings. Different things with different ranges of motion.

You really want to work with things and then work with body only and cycle through them during the year.

[Darthwing Teorist]

I stopped doing KB after having a few injuries: I did not want to risk doing them wrong and aggravate my condition.

I find Ashe's comments about explosive training very interesting. This is something that I should add to my routine. The only hard part is keeping that routine under certain time limits.

[ashe]

The only hard part is keeping that routine under certain time limits.

find out what is unnecessary and delete that from your routine. then add in some explosive stuff to replace it.

try to think in terms of movements rather than excercieses.

i.e. horizontal push, horizontal pull, hip extension, vertical push, vertical pull.

push ups, dumbell presses, bench press, etc. are all horizontal pressing movements. then you can see where you're doubling up and hack away the unessential until you make room for a med ball circuit or whatever you want.

[Syd]

and hack away the unessential

I feel the need to say this in response ... "You have ofwended my famiwy and a Shaowin Tempwle!"

[Chris Fleming]

Noticed this post from a guy who lifts kettlebells on another forum (dragondoor). To him, it puts the issue to rest regarding if kettlebells/weight lifting makes you slower, less effective, etc.

[kreese]

I can't quite put my finger on it, but that was cool as hell.

[ashe]

Noticed this post from a guy who lifts kettlebells on another forum (dragondoor). To him, it puts the issue to rest regarding if kettlebells/weight lifting makes you slower, less effective, etc.

if your program is structured correctly...

[SitYodTong]

Ian,

I would suspect that your problem may be overtraining. One week is not enough for the strength gains from the KBs to go away, but it is enough for the symptoms of overtraining to fade. I would expect that many systema guys train with kettlebells too, so I can't think that would be the problem.

[Ian]

Thanks for the suggestion. That might be it.

What would you suggest though?

Before the switch, my solo training regimen was something like:

-cardio every morning
-more strenuous training twice a week (one day kettlebells, one day bodyweight). high intensity workouts not more than 30 minutes
-slow 'soft' work four times a week
-lots of breathing, tension/relaxation, structural alignment drills, rolls every day.