Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby yusuf on Wed May 11, 2011 2:19 am

err... elegant and fastidious... errr.. i would suggest the swaying does not contribute to that image....


suffice to say that young MArtin has refused to come out after that evening. I suspect he may be at home working on both his drinking capacity and pi quan, given the table was left intact and the women left 'unchatted-up' :)
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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby canard on Wed May 11, 2011 7:58 am

i am nothing if not cognisantly incongruent with any memory of any elegance in the sipping of any MacAllan.
Lesbians putting on a show on the sidewalk, however......now that I remember. :)
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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby Martin on Wed May 11, 2011 8:23 am

Having determined that pi jin (in addition to charm, memory and possibly sanity) is inversely proportional to the quantity Chimay Blue consumed, I am trying to test the relationships between other jins and other beverages. I have high hopes for beng and Balblair, but will require more time to assemble a statistically decent sample :-)
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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby Bodywork on Wed May 11, 2011 9:05 am

Tom wrote:
yusuf wrote:...i've seen you drink


Elegant and fastidious, non? ;) As I recall, I did most of my drinking at the bar, swiftly and before le canard was fully cognizant of how much MacAllan I sucked down, er, sipped elegantly, and when I came back to the table your face was plastered against the window ogling the lasses at the sidewalk tables (as I would have been, if I didn't like MacAllan 18 so much). Most of the rest of the session at that particular London venue was spent watching bottles of Belgian ale dance around as Martin tried to piquan the table in two. He's a curious lad--pinstriped yet so violent. Ah, the contradictions of the British character . . . 8-)

I am sitting here with a bottle of Duvel, Westmalle, and Leffe and when I mentioned Belgian Ale" my host. aghast...saïd "Stop swearing at me.
Im so glad to have survived the Sven!!!
I think if they dropped the Sven on Afghanistan, everyone would drop their rifles and run!

Netherlands was hands down the funniest group of people I have ever met. Everyday we laughed til we cried and our cheeks hurt. Serious training of course, but what a group!!
Toured the Giethoorn canals!! Oh MY.
Off to more training till tonight!
See ya all soon. I am arriving In England, Thursday at 5:30 gatwick airport. anyone want to hook up?
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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby Tom on Wed May 11, 2011 11:12 am

Bodywork wrote:[I am sitting here with a bottle of Duvel, Westmalle, and Leffe and when I mentioned Belgian Ale" my host. aghast...saïd "Stop swearing at me.


A good book on the subject of Belgian ales if you're interested:

http://www.amazon.com/Belgian-Ale-Classic-Beer-Style/dp/0937381314#_

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"Pierre Rajotte traveled the globe in search of the ultimate brew and found that Belgian ale is the pinnacle of artistic brewing complexity."

From my own travels around the globe, I wouldn't disagree--with the possible exception of some West Coast microbrews in the US. Frankly on this last trip I was disappointed in all of the British beers I imbibed, based on fond memories of rambles through the countryside and ploughman's lunches washed down with beer back in my university years . In London this time I wound up drinking only Belgians after several fruitless forays to neighborhood pubs and grocery stores in search of British beer with body and taste. I've gotta say that the diversity and quality of the food in London has improved immensely in recent years, though.

Bodywork wrote:See ya all soon. I am arriving In England, Thursday at 5:30 gatwick airport. anyone want to hook up?
CHeers
Dan



This lad might be game:

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but I suppose Pippa would suit your requirements of elegance and fastidiousness better:

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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby yusuf on Wed May 11, 2011 12:05 pm

Dan, no can do Thursday, but Friday is cool.. drop me your rent a mobile dude... we can train in between bars or drink in between training :)
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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby mrtoes on Wed May 11, 2011 12:28 pm

Likewise busy on Thursday but up for meeting on Friday evening!

Tom: British beer is warm and stale and even the imported beer is usually the crap other countries don't want to drink themselves. Fortunately Belgian and German beer has become trendy recently...

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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby Tom on Thu May 12, 2011 1:33 pm

Dan sez:

Okay
My international number while here is 447438893389.
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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby AllanF on Thu May 12, 2011 7:17 pm

I'm sitting in a hospital room with my wife waiting on baby number 2, otherwise I'd be at the UK seminar. Hope it goes well and look forward to reviews!
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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby Simon on Thu May 12, 2011 10:21 pm

Please anyone who is going do a review, I really like hearing about these if only Dan could come to Asia and remind everyone what this IP stuff is all about.
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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby Ernesto on Fri May 13, 2011 1:41 am

This is not to anyone in particular.

Besides what I and some others (in a nutshell) already wrote over on aikiweb, what else is there to share? Lest you’ve met and felt Dan, I can understand people are curious to know if the man can walk his talk but only a testimony on that won’t ever suffice. Never ever? No never ever…

It’s no use describing the drills, conditioning exercises nor applications because words bound to end up being misunderstood and or misinterpreted if one where to desire to recreate them on ones own. You need to have actual guidance from a qualified instructor who can and is willing to convey this stuff.
I suppose that in time and with sufficient development one might be able to do what I just argued against (recreate stuff successfully from a description), but I’m not inclined to make the first step that way. I’m a novice. At best.

Thus, I won’t tell you what we did plus to get a conceptual framework of IP there’s already plenty of stuff out there. But my main reason in not sharing is because it’s too damn hard to convey without having felt it in the first place.

To wrap up:
The seminar was great. Pleasant crowd. No bullshit. Lots of laughs, lots of hands on time. Dan is very caring and open to questions from whomever about whatever. He presented the material in a coherent fashion with immediate and meaningful results. He could show how working from those basics what the potential is from working this stuff for a period of time. In the end, it’s all up to ourselves whether we end up like him, pass his skill, be as powerful as our own potential permits, or remain where ever we currently are.

Will IP alone make ones MA skill any better? I don’t think so per se. You’d still need to learn how to kick, punch, strike, throw etc. It does empower one to do all of these things with the least amount of energy and in a way that is anti-intuitive to any conventional way of moving and using the body.
So thank you Dan. Thank you for openly teaching this treasure. It’s A maybe THE key to unlock all kinds of potentials that where akin to and which otherwise would have remained forever legend and myth.

My sincerest thanks.

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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby yusuf on Sun May 15, 2011 11:26 am

Hey all

Great seminar. Dans a really nice guy, albeit one who has never heard a Brit speak before so translation was needed :) I've heard people say he is rude on the internet, however his 'real personality' is exuberant, deprecating and self deprecating (that means taking the piss out of oneself, Dan), I now see his writing is a reflection of that and not mean't with any malice at all. He desperately wants us all to get the real goods within whatever we are training already.

The exercises and movements he teaches will be familiar to most cma guys, apart from one series, although there is a unique flavour which isn't Chinese. He also hits quite hard and it's important to keep pestering Him to hit you. Just to feel the output of what is happening. For me he explained things in a way that I've spent the past two day repeating 'so that's what my teacher meant, that's why I'm doing that exercise from my system etc etc'. I find no conflict in th movements themselves, the way Dan uses Intent is very similar to the way Yiquan intent is taught (not my way bit very effective), anyone who has see a teacher who has qing gung will recognise Dan;s stuff. He doesn't have light body skill, but he has a sort of self contained power, the arch in the crotch and power from within the unit and not having to rely on the ground.

I'd highly recommend anyone to go and spend time with the dude. It will improve your own practice in lots of ways. Peace and many thanks Dan

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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby Azer on Sun May 15, 2011 12:41 pm

++++ 1

Yususf, your always the first on the ball with these things!

Big thanks to Dan! Great man, great stuff... albeit he needs some work on his English accent :) Thanks to Paul for helping out too... and whom ever helped organize (pardon my ignorance).

All the best!

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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby mrtoes on Mon May 16, 2011 3:18 am

Excellent seminar.

Dan has a superb ability to break down, isolate and clarify internal principles. He also deeply cares about the progress of his students and was at pains to make sure that we grasped the material within the limits of our understanding. His approach was really hands on which was great, I can't stand it when people talk for hours about theory, I want to feel and see what's going on goddammit! I've been to seminars before with outstanding martial artists where I got nearly no hands on time, or when they felt that I wasn't responding in the right way they shrugged and walked away - no such issues here.

He is very honest and candid, and stated quite clearly that the vast majority of us didn't have the first grasp of the connection that he's looking for. This is absolutely not a problem for me as I like to hear it how it is, but if you don't have an open mind and aren't willing to let go of your ego, and think you've got these skills down then you will be expected to demonstrate your expertise! Importantly all his feedback is positive and constructive and designed to help rather than hinder, even when he chooses your inadequacies as a illustrative talking point. Everyone at the seminar was open and receptive and great to work with and there was absolutely no BS.

In terms of the material there were some things I'd heard before but really hadn't grasped the importance of (or just as likely wasn't listening), and much I hadn't. The solo and two person exercises were clearly presented but very difficult to get right. I'm planning to work on them alongside (or with) my usual training and see where they take me, and hopefully if we meet again then I will suck a little bit less :)

Thanks,

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Re: Dan Harden: IP, aiki and application, UK and Netherlands

Postby lazyboxer on Mon May 16, 2011 6:13 am

It was a pleasure meeting Dan and training with him. He's completely open and approachable, with a real love of the arts and a wonderfully positive and supportive attitude, bringing to life these often hard to understand skills, making them available to anyone willing to invest the time and effort. Having felt a couple of his friendly taps on my ribs on Friday evening, I can attest to the efficacy of his methods, and am glad I hadn't eaten any lunch that day.

He also has some humungous dantian development - and it ain't all beer, neither! (Hope I got the grammar right, Dan)
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