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Re: Selective Tension

Postby Bao on Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:01 am

I'm going to have to put another video together to show you the moon.


What a terrible threat. Please don't show us your moon.
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby origami_itto on Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:35 am

Bao wrote:
I'm going to have to put another video together to show you the moon.


What a terrible threat. Please don't show us your moon.

Watch out or it's gonna be in my full body spandex muscle suit
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby GrahamB on Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:45 am

I think Rob would wipe the floor with all you 'experts' ;D
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby everything on Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:29 am

Jon Jones must be most "internal" ;D ::) :-\
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby RobP3 on Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:59 am

origami_itto wrote:Okay I got to the "trick" and your idea of how to do it. Perfectly valid way to approach the "trick" of not spilling but I have to agree that it isn't the same kind of strike and it isn't the principle that Wayne is talking about that I am obviously getting wrong.

The coffee cup is a finger. I'm going to have to put another video together to show you the moon.


Until Wayne shows it I have no clue what he is talking about. I'd like to see people doing the taking hits one too. And thanks for at least putting a clip up.
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby RobP3 on Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:00 am

everything wrote:Jon Jones must be most "internal" ;D ::) :-\


And probably the least childish
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby RobP3 on Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:01 am

RobP3 wrote:
origami_itto wrote:Okay I got to the "trick" and your idea of how to do it. Perfectly valid way to approach the "trick" of not spilling but I have to agree that it isn't the same kind of strike and it isn't the principle that Wayne is talking about that I am obviously getting wrong.

The coffee cup is a finger. I'm going to have to put another video together to show you the moon.


Until Wayne shows it I have no clue what he is talking about. I'd like to see people try the taking hits one too. And thanks for at least putting a clip up.
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby wayne hansen on Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:29 pm

Rob I have been supportive of most things you have put up
I just think you miss the point here
By your own words you show it saying you can only understand if I do a clip
Grahame childish as usual trying to get others to fight your fight
I had some hope for you when you took up BJJ
seeing your last clip even that is beyond you
So just keep up making your snide cracks that is your strength
As I have said before I don’t write for those doing the clips just for the silent readers here who may want another perspective
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby wayne hansen on Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:32 pm

Just one point I didn’t address
Stances are a training device much like running or weight training
In combat stances should become inviseble but still there
Even running the hundred meters is full of stances
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby Bao on Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:07 pm

wayne hansen wrote:Stances are a training device much like running or weight training
In combat stances should become inviseble but still there
Even running the hundred meters is full of stances


100, Very well explained. 8-)

Practicing stances is fundamental to building a foundation. It will teach you how to sink, how to stabilize your whole structure and how to bring strength from the ground. But as you say, in combat they are invisible. But they are still there.

About 25 yrs ago I had a Bagua teacher, he wasn't very good though. I was very disappointed one time when he should show his stability and let students push at him. But he sank down in a broad evident stance. I thought it was just ridiculous that his students were amazed, because I could already do it much better than him just by standing natural without any apparent stance. I could sink deep and stabilize myself in a narrow, completely natural looking stance.

Anyone that doesn't understand how stances should work or the importance of stance training does not do IMA.
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby GrahamB on Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:54 pm

Oh god you're all so sure of yourselves its painful to read.

'does not do IMA' ' seeing your last clip even that is beyond you'

But all you do is hide behind your keyboards. It's a bad joke.
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby HotSoup on Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:39 am

No need to be so upset, Graham, one day you’ll get IMA too :D
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby origami_itto on Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:57 am

RobP3 wrote:
RobP3 wrote:
origami_itto wrote:Okay I got to the "trick" and your idea of how to do it. Perfectly valid way to approach the "trick" of not spilling but I have to agree that it isn't the same kind of strike and it isn't the principle that Wayne is talking about that I am obviously getting wrong.

The coffee cup is a finger. I'm going to have to put another video together to show you the moon.


Until Wayne shows it I have no clue what he is talking about. I'd like to see people try the taking hits one too. And thanks for at least putting a clip up.

I'm all about getting the ideas flowing and exchanging.

Taking the hits is an entirely different aspect of conditioning, IMHO. I'll see if my wife feels up to whackin me with something lol.
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby RobP3 on Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:32 am

Wayne - fair enough, but why not just show us?

Bao - a lot of deflection and strawman there, sounds like you're trying to convince yourself, not us. But the point remains - show us you using your IMA to do the same.

OI - thanks, look forward to seeing it
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Re: Selective Tension

Postby Bao on Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:52 am

RobP3 wrote:Bao - a lot of deflection and strawman there, sounds like you're trying to convince yourself, not us. But the point remains - show us you using your IMA to do the same.


ROFLMAO! ;D

All you can come up with are lousy, petty attempts to provoke and then you ask me to make a video for you? :D

You need to come up with something better if you want to be taken seriously.

Yes, I can see why you and Barlow get along so well. You both get sour and grumpy if someone even slighly disagrees with you. A real British attitude I guess. :P

Here is one for you as well, my treat!

-drink-

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